Your Gods Will Die With You
… by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor from 2012
Editor’s note: This is an article from 2012. At this time, Steve Rosen of AIPAC was suing that organization because it fired him after he was arrested by the FBI for spying. In a nutshell, his basis what this: They hired me to be a spy and when I got caught, they fired me and claimed ignorance, that and maligned me as well. As Jim W. Dean so often says, “You just can’t make this shit up.”
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Yesterday, I was talking with a senior US Army intelligence officer about AIPAC.
This is a group that “helps” Israel but is supposedly American.
Former Bush White House advisor, Steve Rosen, has testified that it is a spy organization.
My friend confirmed it, not only do they steal American technology and military secrets but they sell them to our enemies and everyone in the Army knows it, congress knows it, but anyone who says a word will have their careers destroyed.
A reminder or two about Rosen, really quite a nice person, friend of a friend, now “spilling the beans.”
Grant Smith discusses the Rosen v. AIPAC lawsuit that threatens to bring Washington to its knees with an espionage scandal of unimagined proportions:Steven J. Rosen’s defamation lawsuit against the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is now entering a critical phase. A series of cross-filings stakes out the critical court terrain.
Rosen intends to show that obtaining and leveraging classified U.S. government information in the service of Israel is common practice at AIPAC.He claims it was unfair for AIPAC to fire and malign him in the press after he was indicted on espionage charges in 2005.On March 2, 2009, Rosen filed the civil lawsuit against his former employer, directors, and an outside public relations firm for libel and slander. Rosen, AIPAC’s former foreign policy chief, seeks $5 million in damages from AIPAC, and punitive damages of $500,000 from each former board member, for a total claim of $21 million.AIPAC made statements to the news media Rosen believes were “knowingly false and defamatory and issued in reckless disregard.” AIPAC fired Rosen and fellow employee Keith Weissman after they were criminally indicted under the 1917 Espionage Act in 2005.Both were caught up in an FBI sting operation receiving classified information from Department of Defense employee Col. Lawrence Franklin, who pled guilty and turned state’s witness.
- Steve Rosen – Formerly with AIPAC, the Rand Corporation and the National Security Council
Rosen’s legal counsel David H. Shapiro gruffly advised AIPAC’s attorney Thomas L. McCally that he would be seeking “serious discovery” on Rosen’s behalf during a status hearing on June 5, 2009.It is this sort of public intrusion guided by knowledgeable insiders, following already devastating FBI raids, that AIPAC probably wants to avoid at all costs.Ironically, Rosen’s civil lawsuit, like the failed government prosecution, hinges on proving that circulating classified information is common practice inside AIPAC.
AIPAC has the ADL label anyone who defends America called “antisemites” and gone, no career, no pension, no job, no voice.
The ADL has gone after me a few times but I ran one of the world’s largest banks, I am probably not a good target.
Several AIPAC employees have been interviewed by us, some on video, some for days, all admitting endless criminal acts against the United States, all indicating that the FBI is fully aware but helpless.
Early on I will begin with a point. One of the things we learned is that Americans, Christian Evangelists, give billions to Israel. They get no accounting of how it is spent.
The amount is staggering, conservatively over $30 billion a year which goes with the secret $18 billion the Pentagon gives Israel in arms which they sell and the official $3 billion we call “foreign aid.”This would pay the tuition for every American college student and hire 50,000 nurses, teachers, police, things we need here in America.
We live in a world of secret prisons, 20 square miles of Poland is a secret US prison. Worst of all, in a sense, are the concentration camps in Israel, walled, gun towers, inmates incinerated with cluster bombs and chemical weapons, camps paid for by religious organizations in the US.
Remember in 1945 when Germans were paraded through the concentration camps they said they knew nothing of? Here, for my religious friends who maintain the blinders of indecency, we have some photos for you to display this Sunday.
Who is going to take America’s Christian Zionists, the “Israeli Firsters” through the concentration camps in Israel to see the walking skeletons, the burned children, the horrors and mass graves?
Nobody can claim they don’t know, not when the world press has published the truth for years.
We have more than minor proof that much of that money is used to persecute Muslims and Christians. The Evangelicalists were all lied to, American Jews are lied to, everyone is lied to.
Israel is a brutal and unjust society run by a criminal elite just like 100 other countries. Muslims prey on each other, look at Saudi Arabia.
Remember the stories about how Saddam took babies out of incubators in Kuwait during the invasion in 1990, one that was planned with the full cooperation of President George H. W. Bush who then led a war against his own friend?
Here, let Congressman Ron Paul tell you about it. Wikileaks got the evidence. If you fought in that war, and many of our readers/members did, welcome to being suckered. Worse yet, of course, tens of thousands who fought then have died of strange diseases our government ignores.
Where are the Vietnam veterans? A few are walking around but Agent Orange, a carcinogenic defoliant laced with dioxin killed most of them and the government spent 40 years covering it up.
Vietnam killed more Americans than all wars combined, including World Wars One and Two, Korea, even the Civil War. Anyway, let’s let Congressman Paul tell us and then ask yourself why certain people are not in prison:
My day job, as a “retiree,” like so many others, is to run a defense group, a number of companies that specialize in training senior intelligence officials, setting up mobile counter-insurgency forces and even training police and private security.
It’s a big and nasty world
I still work on development projects but the current condition of world banking has left many of these to be funded by the US and EU, while China is spending its billions around the world buying influence as well.
These stories are all untold, maybe because the truth would give some a clear look at the world they are going to be living in, one that doesn’t fit accepted ideas of reality.
As we saw in the video above, Bush set Saddam up. Saddam bought his poison gas and many other weapons from Bush family members, they own an arms trading company tied to groups in Taiwan and Japan, those groups are organized crime.
“Poppy Bush,” still helps run the Carylyle Group, a conglomerate of former heads of state, and major political powers, that invests money that traces back, much of it, to drugs and organized crime.
Truth is never told, as the British are learning. Where is Tony Blair? Had he been arrested years ago and is now let out on a leash every now and then?
NATO Headquarters
One of the places this piece goes will be no surprise. After some very successful and legitimate “investigative reporting,” the real partner of organized crime, worldwide, just as Putin tells us is NATO.
They have no other reason to exist other than to run drugs, launder money, shuffle prostitutes and human slaves around the world and pretend to defend us all from terrorism, 90% imaginary, the rest of us orchestrated by Saudi Arabian “Wahhabism” and hired Mossad car bombers. Too much truth for you? Go take a pill!
As for Blair, at least he wasn’t killed like his partner Gaddafi. Sarkozy really wishes he hadn’t taken 50 million euros from Gaddafi now also. As for Blair, want some proof?
Files unearthed from Moamer Kadhafi’s intelligence archives and seen by AFP on Saturday appear to document deep cooperation between the CIA, MI6 and the former Libyan regime, including the shipping of terror suspects for regime interrogation.The cache of documents, originally obtained by Human Rights Watch from a Libyan security archive, includes blunt details about the secret 2004 seizure from Malaysia of an Islamic militant, who by twist of fate now heads commands the revolutionary forces in Tripoli.The letters include an apparent CIA memo informing the Libyan authorities about the journey of “Abdullah al-Sadiq” and his pregnant wife from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok, where the US would “take control” of the pair and hand them over to the regime.Sadiq — named as a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group — is said to be the nom de guerre of Abdel-Hakim Belhaj, who now leads the militia of Libya’s new rulers in the capital Tripoli.In another letter a senior member of Britain’s intelligence agency congratulates Libya’s spymaster on the arrival of Sadiq.The chatty and friendly letter, written to Kadhafi’s right-hand man Mussa Kussa, says the delivery of Sadiq “is the least we can do for you.”Other letters to Kussa headed “Greetings from MI6″ (Britain’s foreign intelligence service) and shows a personal Christmas greeting signed by a senior British spy with the epithet “Your friend”.Kussa was Kadhafi’s foreign minister until he flew to Britain in March and defected, but despite being accused of rights violations was allowed to fly to Qatar the following month.
The news was quickly blocked in America, though the story was broken by the Wall Street Journal. Discussions yesterday went even further. I was talking with friends about Pakistan and Afghanistan, “official” friends, about how drug trafficking works. We claim we have cut drug production by 30% in Afghanistan. Being the “spoil sport” I am, I had to make mention that:
- There is no factual basis for the claim
- We have actually expanded drug production to Iraq and the CIA is now shipping both marijuana and hashish, which are now as profitable as heroin and easier to sell. The “customers” live longer.
Angela Merkel
The discussion then went to upcoming changes. We expect France to elect a new “socialist” government and cut ties with Merkel, a lifelong communist, and the mess she has made of Germany.
France came up because they have troops in Kosovo, a part of Serbia seized and made into a “country” that almost nobody recognizes. Kosovo is Muslim, actually run by organized crime, and partnered with the Albanian Mafia.
You will love this part.
The Kosovo/Albanian Mafia “officially” has wiped out most of the American/Italian “Mafia” and even the Russian “Mafia” groups in the US. This is even better. Their primary base of operations is a place called Camp Bondsteel, an American base where heroin is brought in and transshipped for them.
Camp Bondsteel – Never Mentioned in MSM Media
I then checked with friends in law enforcement, extremely senior, and was told they have “insulation” in Washington that lets them do anything they want.
Who, I asked. I was told, “the Bush family, Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of Defense and former Secretary of State Madeline Albright.
I was then told that much of the reason for the war in the Balkans and the destruction of Serbia was to set up Kosovo as a center for organized crime.
There are more troops in Kosovo than citizens, all there to protect the drug business, same as the US and their few “allies” are doing in Afghanistan.
It seems that drugs are even more profitable than rigging oil prices, the GOPs game. I then confirmed this through Pentagon sources who backed up what I have just written 100% plus.
For a bit of “santized” background on how far things you have never heard of have gone, try these links:
- Wikipedia
- EU Publication on “Crime in the Western Balkans”
- ADL site
When checking the facts, which I did “on the ground” as one of those who first entered Serbia after the bombing stopped, I found some quite amazing inconsistencies. The UN Commander, head of our peacekeeping force was my friend, General Sir Michael Rose, someone respected by all. If you haven’t heard of Rose, there is a reason.
Here, Mike Rose, UN Commander, points out proof of “ethnic cleansing” by Muslims, contradicting stories told in the western press:
Speaking of “ethnic cleansing,” have you heard of “news cleansing?” Mike Rose, a Brit commander from the Falklands, commander of “SAS22″ with 4 knighthoods demands the immediate arrest of Tony Blair. Try to find a record of this. I will supply the “invisible” newspaper headline, this one from the UK Daily Mail:
“The inquiry should be the first step in a judicial process that brings those responsible for the disasters of the Iraq war before the courts – and could, as I shall explain, ultimately result in Tony Blair being indicted for war crimes.Already, the inquiry has provided us with devastating details of events in the run-up to Iraq.Sir William Ehrman, former Director of Defence and Intelligence at the Foreign Office, told it this week that British spies reported ten days before the invasion that Iraq had ‘disassembled’ what chemical weapons it had. Yet Tony Blair nevertheless pressed ahead with the war.Then came former Washington ambassador Sir Christopher Meyer’s claim that Tony Blair and George W. Bush had signed a secret deal ‘in blood’ to topple Saddam Hussein almost a year before Iraq was invaded, and that officials found themselves scrabbling to find ‘a smoking gun’ to justify going to war.But, despite these compelling accounts of what happened, the truth is that we already know the main lessons of Iraq: Britain was taken unprepared into war on false grounds, and the inevitable result was the destruction of Iraq, enormous loss of life and continuing political turmoil in the Middle East. Worse, the war has radicalised Muslim opinion against the West throughout the world, even spawning terrorism on the streets of London.Evidence: Sir Christopher Meyer told the Iraq Inquiry that Blair and Bush signed a secret deal ‘in blood’ to topple Saddam HusseinAlthough it may be too early to assess the final cost of the war in human, political or economic terms, already the figures that have emerged are truly horrifying.Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians and more than 4,500 soldiers from coalition forces have been killed during almost seven years of the occupation – and probably ten times that number have been injured. Two million Iraqis have fled their country and another two million have been internally displaced.Up to $3 trillion has been spent on the war by America – a staggering sum that is likely to have played a significant part in the collapse of the American banking system and helped create the present difficulties facing the world economy.Today, so many destabilising political, economic and social issues remain in Iraq that despite victory having been declared, there is a serious danger the country will collapse into civil war when the American troops finally depart next year.Added to all this is the effect on the war in Afghanistan. War can never be an isolated act, and the West’s efforts in Afghanistan have been almost fatally damaged by the decision to concentrate on Iraq – with the resulting diversion of vital strategic resources.If only a fraction of the military and economic resources that have been expended in Iraq over the past six years had been committed to Afghanistan in 2001, the situation would certainly look very different today from the deeply worrying one that currently exists in that war-torn country.Crucially, it would not have been possible for the Taliban to return to Afghanistan or mobilise the support of the Afghani people against the coalition forces by claiming that the West had failed to deliver its promise to rebuild the country.As it is, the Taliban has been able to exploit the vacuum that was left when the West turned away – and we now have a situation which, at its worst, could spill over into Pakistan, raising the spectre of Al Qaeda gaining access to nuclear weapons.Any military strategist will tell you it is never sensible to open a second front, as we did in Iraq, before completely defeating the enemy on the first front.Domino effect: Pakistani soldiers outside a cave allegedly used by Taliban militantsAs Blair walks off into our history books, without seemingly a scintilla of blame being attributed to him for his part in the Iraq war, no wonder there is such extreme fury and frustration with a political system that refuses to make him answer for his actions.Recently, I heard an Oxford academic describe the Iraq war as ‘stale cabbage’, adding that the British people were no longer interested in how the Iraq war had come about.But this dismissive attitude greatly underestimates the desire for justice that characterises most of us in this country.Indeed, it is likely that much of the current anger over the issue of MPs’ expenses is actually an expression of deep disillusionment with the entire democratic process, which has been brought on by Blair’s decision to go to war against the clear will of the majority of the people.Sadly, it was also a decision in which the majority of MPs, with a few honourable exceptions such as the late Robin Cook, were complicit.For it is not just Blair who should be held to account. In the run-up to the Iraq war, it is clear that MPs failed sufficiently to question the validity of the intelligence used by Blair to justify the war – choosing to believe what they were told and supinely accepting the conclusions of the infamous ‘dodgy dossier’ which warned that Saddam could launch an attack on the West within 45 minutes.During the debate on the dossier on September 24, 2002, they failed to challenge the Prime Minister even though it would have been a simple matter to determine whether the missiles that Saddam supposedly possessed were tactical or strategic weapons.Tactical battlefield missiles – which are what they turned out to be – could only just reach the British sovereign base at Dhekelia in Cyprus, and they certainly did not constitute a strategic threat to the West as Blair claimed.If one of my military students at the British Army Command and Staff College had produced such a sloppy and weak case for war as did Tony Blair before Parliament, I would have sacked him – for he would have revealed himself to be entirely without the strategic grasp or ruthless analytic quality that is necessary in any military leader, especially one in time of war.Yet Blair’s misuse of intelligence in the run-up to war is but one of at least two vital issues where the Iraq inquiry should be seeking to determine whether he is guilty of deception.First, the then Prime Minister clearly stated before the invasion that regime change would never be the reason for going to war – yet it is already beginning to emerge from the Iraq inquiry that this was almost certainly the real reason for invading Iraq.On this issue, at least, it seems as if Blair misled Parliament and, indeed, the country.Second, according to accepted international law of war, no country should go to war unless it is the action of last resort; its actions are proportional to the threat; and unless the end result is justified by the means used – in other words, that the situation in the country after the invasion will be an improvement, in human and security terms, on the original state of affairs.Toppled: The Prime Minister had said before the invasion that regime change would never be the reason for going to warThe war in Iraq represents a clear breach of these three basic requirements: the UN believed there was no justification for going to war in March 2003, as we had not reached the point of ‘last resort'; there was no threat whatsoever from Iraq in the absence of chemical weapons; and the woeful failure to commit proper resources to the post-war situation meant Iraq inevitably descended into a spiral of disorder, violence and chaos from which it has still not recovered.Everyone – even a Prime Minister – must be presumed innocent until he is proven guilty. However, it is not a sustainable defence for Blair to say that he felt he was doing the ‘right thing’ when he committed this country to the invasion of Iraq, or that he was himself misled by the intelligence.It is his obvious responsibility as the country’s leader to determine the validity and quality of the source of the intelligence before taking us to war.And it seems more than probable, from the grotesque fiasco of the ‘dodgy dossier’, that Blair was quite happy to use any intelligence that suited his case – and ignore warnings about its quality.Already, the inquiry seems to be confirming our worst fears about events leading up to the war against Iraq in 2003. Already, a prima facie case could be made that the invasion of Iraq was in significant breach of international law and might constitute a war crime. “
General Michael Rose
What would America give for a general like that? West Point didn’t turn out a single one, not one voice, not even Wesley Clark. If Blair should face trial, as Rose states, his full statement at the link above, then shouldn’t the entire Bush administration go on the dock with him?
Of course, we hear the occasional story, “Cheney faces arrest if he leaves US” and such. What kind of people are we to allow criminals like this to remain in our midst, not only remain but to continue their conspiracies and crimes even when out of office?
You stumble over all kinds of things. You learn that most of those who were murdered in the Balkans were Serbs, not just Muslims, that Serbs were in concentration camps, mass graves of Serbian dead dot the country side and those photographed cutting the heads off women and children now eat lunch with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
They also help distribute billions of dollars in drugs.
But then things have always been like that, Timothy McVeigh, supposedly responsible for the Oklahoma City bombings, was an FBI informant and everything we are told about that incident was false.
Then we can simply disprove everything about 9/11 with a short video and one question: “Where are the two men arrested on 9/11? Did they fly back to Tel Aviv the next day on the special plane Bush authorized?” In less than 4 minutes, I can provide proof that no one can dispute:
While they were so busy covering up the big things, selling the big lie, this was there all along, the “smoking gun.” CBS and CNN claim they never made the broadcasts, the officers no longer exist, the forensic evidence is gone, the earth swallowed it all up but then this tiny little video, I have so many of these, comes to the surface.
Simply put, if this video exists, and it does, then everything else is not credible. Ask any attorney. They pray for things like this.
I belabor the point I wish I could make easily, that we all have moral responsibility for what we do. I pay taxes that pay for bombs that kill children? My excuse is coercion, that if I attempt to withhold taxes, I will be killed. Let’s be honest here, there are to trials for public figures that “cross the line.” I pay and thus, I kill.
A point. A major aspect of Islam is charity. All Muslims that can must give to charity. Our dirty little trick is to have tied all Muslim charities to “terrorism,” through paid lying informants, invented “intelligence” and fabrication.
Almost all that have been arrested for “terrorism” or “money laundering” have donated to very real orphanages and hospitals.Real terrorists, or if we are more honest, those who fight against the American invasion of Afghanistan, get millions from the US government, paid for allowing trucks to go through, for loading heroin onto our airplanes or are paid part of the billions in bribes that lets America pretend Afghanistan is a real war.
The Dufster in his customized uniform
I was in Vietnam, America’s most costly war, as a combat Marine. You can die quite easily in a totally phony war. For those unaware, the Vietnam war was caused when America blocked elections mandated by the 1954 treaty.
The people rose against us, we put in a puppet government and now, decades later, 2 million Americans are dead that would otherwise be alive, closer to 2.2 million. These are the real numbers.
Israel is one tiny issue, a “pissant” country run by a former furniture salesman from Philadelphia who has a g-d complex and the qualifications that would normally have him collecting shopping carts.
He is simply a front-man for organized crime, a banking conspiracy, a pack of racist maniacs and drug dealers.
He governs by staging phony terror attacks, some in Israel, others in places like New York City or Abuja or Norway, he passes out billions in American money, in Israel life is good.
The cost of living there is actually less by 30% than Toledo, Ohio. Homes there cost nothing, built on land belonging to others, of course, everything is cheap. I didn’t know that until I carefully went over prices with a friend moving there.
I can apply for citizenship, I could buy a home for almost nothing, get a pension paid for by the United States, another one, and not even have to live there. I have actually considered it. I could take the immigrant money and buy a Ferrari except I would be afraid to drive it.
Can you guess how many people are doing the same? Can you blame them?
Then there is the issue of morality. I would have to see Palestinians beaten, held at gunpoint, their homes bulldozed, read newspapers that lie continually, see Gaza bombed, schools destroyed.
Actually, America does these things daily but at least I don’t have to see all of it. Maybe this is why Israel builds walls around their concentration camps. At least the Nazis had the courtesy to only use fences. They were less hypocrites.
Oh, did I use an unpleasant analogy? I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have done that, no matter how true it might be. You say the newspapers don’t agree, that movies and TV have Israel as “surrounded” and “embattled,” not something else. Read it from Uri Avnery or Gilad Atzmon, I can’t take the time to feed narcissism.
Please Don’t Send More
The issue is that Israel has been found, by over 100 nations, to be both “apartheid” and to be “terrorist.” It isn’t the only one, just the one that lies most and loudest.
If you are Jewish and unaware of these things, suggest you find the few credible folks like Avnery and Atzmon and read them. We can all remind ourselves of each other’s sins and well should.
If you do not ask, this is inexcusable. If you choose to believe lies, you could be a Republican. I wouldn’t wish that on a dog.
Our issue is “right and wrong” and our willingness to not just look away but to accept being lied to. Humanity has endless thousands of years of heroes, some real, more imaginary yet we live in a time where men and women of honesty and character have never been under attack around the world as they are today.
There are two choices. Either your children will learn the truth and hate you or they will never know the truth and, thus, never really be human at all. Tell me which is worse? Don’t tell me you haven’t thought about it.
We have reached a point where governments have failed in every sense. The 19th century movements, anarchism, Marxism, those that recognized what we discuss and provided flawed solutions have never been replaced, we no longer strive for justice or honor.
The most brutal concentration camps in the world are now run by graduates of West Point and the Air Force Academy. In the reaches surrounding them, the mass graves will be discovered, in one day 900 murdered in Afghanistan alone, each shot in the back of the head.
How many died during interrogation, so often that stubbornness that prevented turning over “terror secrets” ended up to be the most obvious reason of all. 97% of our “terror suspects” were people we bought from local bandits and kidnappers, simply people they pulled off the street at random, as with Dr. Aafia Siddiqui.
Dr. Aafia Siddiqui
As an American, hearing military officials who are, by career choice, forced to lay down their lives tell me they are afraid to speak up no longer seems incomprehensible and conflictory.
Our institutions, be they churches, governments, social organizations, philosophical belief systems, they have all failed. We are mammals who eat our own young, this is the truth of it.
We are not “our brother’s keeper,” we keep nothing at all.
Expect the unexpected, a fate so horrific that it is unimaginable. It will be earned, be assured of that. Apocalypse? Not hardly! Your g-ds will die with you.
Editing: Jim W. Dean
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