Putin holds annual media Q&A marathon
Live broadcast of the annual news conference of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin has begun on television channels Rossiya 1, Rossiya 24 and Channel One, as well as Mayak, Vesti FM and Radio Rossii radio stations.
December
23, 2016
13:20
Moscow
19 of 20
Vladimir Putin’s annual news conference.
Television channel Public Television of Russia (OTR) and its
site (http://www.otr-online.ru/online/) are providing live sign language interpretation of the news
conference.
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President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Good afternoon, colleagues,
friends. Let’s begin.
We have agreed with my assistant here that I will not make
any lengthy opening remarks, so let us get down to business, to your
questions. Go ahead, please.
Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov: Following a tradition
we have, I propose that we give the first question to one
of the most experienced members of the Kremlin’s press
pool, who, I think, has been working in it since the end
of last century. Valery Sanfirov, Mayak radio station, your question,
please.
Valery Sanfirov: Mayak radio station, Vesti FM, Radio Rossii.
Mr President, the year is coming to an end, so it is
time to take a look at the state of the Russian
economy. At meetings on economic and other matters held
throughout this year you have often used such terms as ‘turbulence,’
‘hitting the bottom’ or ‘reaching yet another low’. I can even
quote a joke you shared with us at last year’s news conference,
saying that 2015 was not as bad as it could have been. How could you
describe the current state of the Russian economy? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: This is a traditional question
and a natural thing to ask. Of course, we are analysing our
performance over the past year. As usual, this performance needs
to be put into perspective. We need to look
at the macroeconomic indicators of 2015 and compare them
with what we have achieved in 2016.
As you can probably guess, I have the latest figures
that we reviewed yesterday with colleagues and a number
of experts.
Last year, Russia’s GDP, which is the key indicator, dropped 3.7
percent. This year GDP also declined, but we are not talking about
a contraction of this magnitude any more. Initially we believed that
the GDP would fall by about 1 percent, but this figure was later
adjusted to 0.7 percent and then again to 0.6 percent.
In November, national GDP inched up. Overall for the year we are
expecting a decrease in GDP in the range of 0.5
percent – 0.6 percent.
GDP increased thanks to growth in industries
of the real economy, such as machine building, truck
manufacturing, heavy machine building, manufacturing of road-building equipment,
transport machine building, the chemical industry, light industry,
processing and, of course, agriculture. Growth in agriculture was
substantial – 2.6 percent last year. We expected 3.2 percent growth this
year but the current figure is 4.1 percent and the yearend
figure will be at least 4 percent. I think this is a very good
trend and we must try to maintain it.
There is also the inflation rate. You remember that it was rather
high last year, even for our economic system. One of the reasons
was the import replacement programme in agriculture
and the ensuing market disproportions. We could not substitute
everything we had imported. But agriculture has demonstrated very good
dynamics, and the inflation rate will be different this year.
I would like to remind you that the previous lowest inflation
rate – 6.1 percent – was reported in 2011. It will be below 6
percent this year. We had thought it would be around 5.7 or 5.8 percent,
but it will be most likely around 5.5 percent. That is a record low
inflation rate and a reason to believe that we will soon be able
to reach the target inflation rate of 5 percent
and subsequently 4 percent.
I believe that our budget deficit was 2.6 percent [of GDP]
last year. It will be slightly larger this year – I will explain why
later. The figure for the first 10 months is 2.4 percent, but
the yearend figure will be 3.7 percent. I believe that it is
an acceptable figure, in part because we have a foreign trade
surplus of over $70 billion. We have maintained our reserves.
It is true that the Government’s Reserve Fund has decreased
a little bit, but the National Welfare Fund is almost intact.
The Government’s reserves are estimated at some $100 billion, while
the Central Bank’s foreign reserves have increased. They amounted to $368
billion at the beginning of the year, if memory serves,
and by now they have grown close to $400 billion, or more
precisely more than $385 billion. In other words, we are doing well
in this respect, too, and this is a solid safety net.
Finally, cargo shipments are on the rise, which means that
the economy is recovering. This is a very positive indicator.
Are there any other encouraging signs? Capital outflow is decreasing.
Just look at the trend: in 2014, the outflow exceeded $500
billion, but in 2015 it was $57 billion. This year, it came
in at just $9 billion in the first 9 or 10 months,
and is expected to total $16 billion – $17 billion in 2016,
taking into account payments under loans, etc. Overall, the trend is quite
encouraging.
What are the problems? Are there any issues? Of course, there
are. We have to ensure further economic growth and higher industrial
output, real disposal incomes have somewhat declined, which is not a very
good thing in itself, since it leads to lower consumer demand
and thus affects investment. That said, there is a positive side
to it, as well: over the last several months we have been seeing
a rise, albeit a modest one, in real wages in the real
economy, which is a positive development that gives us reason
to believe that the positive trend will remain in place
in the near future.
As for the social sphere, the demographic trends
remain positive. Natural population growth continues. The birth rate has
slightly decreased, but the mortality rate also declined. Overall, there is
a positive trend in terms of natural population growth. This is
how things are.
In this regard it can be said that we are advancing
in accordance with the plan that was publicly announced. It is being
implemented, and the performance so far has been quite positive.
Marina Sevostyanova: Good afternoon,
Svetich agriculture media holding. My name is Marina Sevostyanova.
My question has to do with subsidies for Russian agricultural
machine manufacturing.
In fact, these subsidies benefit two industries, both manufacturing
and agriculture. My question is to what extent do you believe
these support measures are still needed? Are there any plans to expand
them and make anti-crisis initiatives permanent?
Vladimir Putin: Anti-crisis measures cannot be permanent. They are
intended to help specific industries, in this case you mentioned
the manufacture of agricultural equipment, overcome current
challenges and put them on the path of steady growth. This
is about demand, and there is no doubt that it is our job to ensure
that there is demand.
By the way, agricultural machine-building, which, if
I didn’t already mention before, I will now, has posted very good
growth. This is one of the sectors that is now driving industrial
growth rates and, ultimately, our GDP figures. But we need to set
a clear course of having this and other industrial production
sectors live not on state subsidies but on natural demand.
How do we create this natural demand? By developing
the agriculture sector itself. If we develop the sector and our agribusinesses
have more money at their disposal, they will be able to invest more
in buying new equipment and this will support agricultural
machine-building.
As I said, the trend is very good here, with agriculture
up by slightly more than 4 percent, and I am sure that
as this sector continues to grow, demand will grow with it,
and this will support the agricultural machine-building sector too.
For now though, these trends are still fragile and so we need
to support them. The Government will continue providing state
subsidies next year to the sectors that need it. A total 7.5
billion rubles have been earmarked for industry as a whole,
and 216 billion for agriculture. I hope that these combined
measures will produce positive results.
Since we are on the subject of agriculture
and there will probably be more questions on this sector, let me say
that we have been celebrating along with the rural population lately,
celebrating this record harvest we have had. We said it would be a record
117 million tonnes. In fact, it will be more than 119 million tonnes,
which is quite simply an excellent result, and I want
to thank the farmers for their work.
This really is an unprecedented achievement in our recent
history. There were similar results back in the 1970s, when Russia
was called the RSFSR, even slightly bigger in 1973 and 1976, but
we know that even with those bumper harvests foodstuffs and fodder were
still in short supply back then.
The structural changes and organisation
in the agriculture sector today show that the result we have now
is something unique and offers us excellent opportunities
for developing the sector further.
Alexander Kolesnichenko: Alexander Kolesnichenko, Argumenty
i Fakty.
This is a good opportunity to double-check the economic
growth you are talking about. Everyone says the world is
on the threshold of some serious economic changes and even
revolutions. Economic growth will be impossible in principle without new technology
and this will seriously change the place of many countries
in the world.
We have talked for a long time about a new technological
paradigm. You devoted much time to this in your recent address. That
said, it seems that in some areas we are lagging even further behind,
for instance, in IT, as well as in production
and social development with IT.
We have fallen far behind others. Could this be forever? It would be
interesting to know your viewpoint, your opinion, if you could be more
specific about this. Maybe you could even explain what the biggest
problems are and what to do about them. Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Some experts believe our economy is unresponsive
to scientific achievements and modern high-tech economic trends.
I think this is not quite so because the problem with economies like
ours is that it is possible to take in big revenue from
the energy-related sector and it is difficult to compel business
to invest in other areas if there is one area where they can make
quick and fairly large profits.
To change the structure of the economy, give it
a new dimension and create development prospects, our Government has
for many years taken steps to subsidise certain areas
of economic development, primarily, high-tech industries, of course.
Yes, for the time being we invest less in high-tech industries
than the OECD, in the economy in general,
and the difference is considerable. The OECD countries invest
about 2.4 percent of their aggregate GDP in it compared with Russia’s
1.2 percent.
These efforts have produced the first results. First,
the authorities and businesses have joined efforts to adopt
the National Technology Initiative, as you know. We are drafting
a comprehensive economic development plan to 2025.
The Government is to complete and make it public by May.
Priority development areas are being created in the Far East
and eastern Siberia as zones of high-tech production with
special incentives. In general, special incentives have been available
in several sectors, including the IT sector, for the past
few years, and we can see the results.
What are the results? For example, IT exports were around
zero several years ago. Today we export $14.5 billion worth of weapons
and $7 billion worth of IT products. I have cited these figures
before. Many of our high-tech sectors have become competitive. They may
look like mere growth points now, or individual achievements, but we are
certainly a global leader in many areas, including those we have led
traditionally, such as civilian nuclear technology, space exploration,
some aviation sectors, and the like, as well
as in the defence industry, which has experienced exceptional
growth in productivity.
This will also carry over to civilian sectors. You know that
the Government has been instructed to translate the current
positive trends in the defence industry to civilian industries.
By and large, I believe that there is no reason
for despair. More than that, there are grounds to believe that we
will not simply achieve leadership in many key spheres, but will also
preserve this leadership for decades. Of course, we proceed from
the belief that we must become part of the global trend
and even lead the transition to a new technological
revolution. We have every chance of doing so, considering the high
level of development in research and education.
One sign says ‘Tatars’, and the other ‘Not without Tatars…’
So, what about Tatars, what is the problem?
Yelena Kolebakina: Mr President, my name is Yelena Kolebakina,
Business Online business newspaper.
I have the following question. As you probably know,
there are more and more troubled banks in the country. It is not
uncommon for the Central Bank to revoke …
Vladimir Putin: What does this have to do with the Tatars? How cunning
of you.
Yelena Kolebakina: Hold on, that is not all.
It is not uncommon for the Central Bank to revoke
licences and suspend operations, and Tatarstan has not been spared.
Of course, individual depositors will get their deposits back
in the amount set by law, which is 1.4 million, while small
enterprises that you support so much, they will go bankrupt, since they are
viewed as third-rank creditors, so more often than not they end up not
getting anything back.
My question is whether a fund of some kind should be
established for legal entities that would operate just
as the Deposit Insurance Agency does for individual depositors?
Maybe you have some idea of how this issue can be resolved? Maybe we will
end up having just four or five federal state-owned banks? In your opinion,
do we need small regional banks?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: First, almost all experts, both Russian
and foreign, support the Central Bank in its efforts
to improve the financial system. No one believes that in doing
so the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is doing something
wrong. Nobody believes that. These efforts are undertaken above all
in the interests of depositors. If organisations that are not
financial institutions at all, but money laundering vehicles, remain
on the Russian market, it will do no good, and depositors will
be the ones to suffer. It is for protecting the interests
of individuals that the deposit insurance system was introduced.
As far as I am aware, the Central Bank is working
closely with Tatarstan authorities. The President and Government
of Tatarstan, which is one of the regional leaders
in the Russian Federation in terms of development
in the economy, social sector and many other areas, are working
with the Central Bank to find ways to support all depositors,
including legal entities. There are legal procedures in place in this
area, the provisions we have today, but of course we will need
to take a close look at how to support our industrial
companies and small and medium business.
The Tatarstan bank you mentioned is not some small establishment
but a sizeable institution. As far as not simply the big
banks but also small banks and small and medium business go,
as I said in my Address [to the Federal
Assembly], if you noted, we need a network of smaller regional banks
too, and the Central Bank could apply different regulatory
requirements for these smaller banks. The idea is to take
a differentiated approach, apply tougher requirements, closer
to the Basel III, to big banks and banks that play
a central role in the system overall, including regional banks,
and apply less stringent requirements to small regional banks working
with small and medium business and with ordinary people. This would
give them greater flexibility in working with their customers. But
a lighter regulatory framework should not mean lower quality of these
establishments, and the financial authorities must continue their
oversight role here.
As for the bank you referred to, let me say again that
the Central Bank and the authorities of Tatarstan continue
their work and this process is proceeding quite smoothly.
Dmitry Peskov: Ekho Moskvy, please.
Alexei Solomin: Good afternoon, Mr President.
My question is connected, in part, to your Address
[to the Federal Assembly]. You said that the fight against
corruption is not a show. There are too many shows like this around. Take
the story of [Federal Customs Service Director] Andrei Belyaninov. He
has been nearly ruined, his name dragged through the mud, but later it
turned out he was framed. Or take [Economic Development Minister Alexei]
Ulyukayev, a close and confidential associate, whom you dismissed
overnight, citing the loss of trust. Did you talk with him? Did you
ask him for an explanation? Do you have it? Is it possible that these
headline-grabbing cases are not about fighting corruption and that they
are an imitation created for public attention, or your
attention, in order to get a seat closer to you?
If I may, I asked a question at last year’s news
conference, and I would like to ask the same question
again. It concerns the murder of Boris Nemtsov. Are you monitoring
the investigation? Do you, as a lawyer, consider
the related developments convincing? Do you, as the Supreme
Commander-in-Chief, believe that Russian officer Ruslan Geremeyev, who has not
appeared in court for testimony, must appear in court?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: I will begin with the last part
of your question. Of course, I closely monitor
the so-called high-profile cases, especially when they concern murder,
in particular, the murder of Boris Nemtsov. Of course,
I support everything the investigative authorities have done
to establish the circumstances of this case
and to identify the persons involved and the culprits.
It is not surprising that officials, people who held official
positions, including in law enforcement agencies, sometimes commit crimes,
even very serious crimes. This has happened in Russia and other
countries before. Take the horrific, tragic murder of our ambassador
in Turkey. Do you know who killed him?
So there is nothing new in this, and we will continue working
consistently to establish the circumstances and to identify
the criminals. The investigative authorities usually achieve this
goal in the majority, if not all high-profile cases, although this
can take years, as in the case of Galina Starovoitova
and several other cases. Unfortunately, we have not yet established all
the circumstances surrounding the murder of Mikhail Manevich,
with whom I had a close personal relationship. His murder has not
been solved yet.
As for other high-profile cases, including Mr Belyaninov,
there was no case against him. I fully agree with you in this respect
and consider it unacceptable that information about
the pre-investigation actions taken, including searches
and the like, was leaked to the media. Such leaks damage
business and personal reputations.
Regarding Mr Ulyukayev: I did not talk with Alexei Ulyukayev.
I believe that the information provided by the related
agencies was sufficient reason to remove him from his position due
to loss of trust. We will know what this leads to after
the trial. Making any conclusions before this is improper
and harmful.
Dmitry Peskov: Vyacheslav Terekhov, also one of the most
esteemed members of the Kremlin press pool.
Vyacheslav Terekhov: Thank you very much.
Vladimir Putin: Everything for the Kremlin press pool. “How
can one pass over a relation!”
Vyacheslav Terekhov: We have been working together for a long
time – that is why. Mr President, we have been implementing 11 executive
orders and 270 provisions – the so-called May executive
orders – for five years now. We have been working and working…
There is probably no money for this.
Vladimir Putin: Why not?
Vyacheslav Terekhov: The budget shows that there are cuts
everywhere.
Could you please tell me whether I am right in assuming that
the sale of a large stake in Rosneft, in part
to foreign investors, will fund the implementation
of the May executive orders and the economy? But will foreigners
be able to give us the money now that the banks are under sanctions?
If so, are you ready, is the country ready to sell stakes
in large state-owned companies to maintain the current state
of affairs?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: I could answer your question until tomorrow
morning because it has to do with the budget, implementation
of the May executive orders and privatisation. In fact, it
boils down to three major issues.
In terms of the budget, yes, we proceed from
the most conservative forecasts, notably, $40 per barrel next year.
It is true that budget spending will decrease in percentage terms
from over 18 trillion to just over 16 trillion but in absolute terms
it will remain constant – 15.8 trillion rubles in 2017, 2018
and 2019. Coupled with 5,000 ruble payments to pensioners next year
and the so-called income-related costs and revenues, this will
be a little over 16 trillion – 16.1 trillion rubles. But we have made
all the allocations needed to deliver on social commitments,
including those stated in the 2012 Presidential executive orders.
Moreover, we will fully and completely retain our support
for the industry. It will amount to 2.6 percent
of the GDP – even a little higher than this year.
I think this year it was 2.2−2.3 percent.
National defence is the biggest spending item in the budget.
In 2011, we spent 2.7 percent of our GDP on defence. This year,
and over the last five years, we have substantially increased defence
spending. This year’s figure will come to 4.7 percent of GDP. Next
year, the figure will be 3.3 percent, and in 2019, 2.8 percent.
We will arrive at this level of 2.8 and maintain it there over
the several years to follow. This will not affect out plans
to strengthen our country’s defence capability because, as I said,
we have invested substantial funds in this sector over the last five
years. What is very important is that we will pay off all debts to defence
companies this year, and this makes it possible for us
to programme the financing levels I just mentioned.
We are selling stakes in state-owned enterprises not because we
lack money for particular budget expenditure items, but for several
other reasons.
First, bringing in new owners will help to improve our
economy’s structure. These new owners include Swiss trading company Glencore
and the Qatar Investment Authority. Our position is that
the arrival of these new representatives on the management
board will improve the management quality of the company, which
is already among the most effective in the world. This was also
part of our budget revenue plans, programmed into the budget right
from the start, not to finance any particular sector, but
for a variety of reasons all together.
As for the money the foreign buyers are paying
for the 19.5-percent stake they are acquiring in Rosneft, it has
already been paid in full into the Russian Federation budget.
Rosneft itself paid slightly over 300 billion for Bashneft,
and the foreigners have already paid their share – slightly over
700 billion. Overall, the budget received around 1.1 trillion from
the Bashneft sale and the sale of a 19.5-percent stake
in Rosneft.
Nathan Hodge: Mr President,
My name is Nathan Hodge, Moscow Bureau chief of the Wall
Street Journal. Is there a possibility of an early presidential
election next year?
Vladimir Putin: What country are you talking about?
(Applauses. Laughter in the audience)
Nathan Hodge: The Russian Federation.
Vladimir Putin: I can tell you right away. It is possible, but not
advisable.
Nathan Hodge: Thank you.
You made a statement yesterday on strengthening
the strategic nuclear capability. Could you elaborate on these plans
in greater detail?
Vladimir Putin: May I ask you to better articulate your
question? What exactly in my statements at the Defence
Ministry Board meeting caught your attention?
Nathan Hodge: On a personal level, what interests me is
the production of new kinds of nuclear weapons. We know
of course how hard it is, since nuclear tests are banned. Perhaps you
simply could not help but respond to Mr Trump’s statement yesterday on nuclear
weapons?
Vladimir Putin: Regarding the US President-elect, Mr Trump, there
is nothing new here. On the campaign trail he talked about
the need to strengthen the US nuclear capability and armed
forces. So there is nothing unusual here.
Honestly, I was quite surprised by statements coming from
other official representatives of the current administration, who
for some reason started to argue that the United States has
the most powerful army in the world. But nobody suggested
otherwise.
If you listened carefully to what I said yesterday,
I talked about strengthening the nuclear triad
and in conclusion said that the Russian Federation was stronger
than any potential – and this is key – aggressor. This is
a very important point, and not an incidental one.
What does it mean to be an aggressor? An aggressor is
someone who can attack the Russian Federation. We are stronger than any
potential aggressor. I have no problem repeating it.
I also said why we are stronger. This has to do with
the effort to modernise the Russian Armed Forces, as well
as the history and geography of our country,
and the current state of Russian society. There are a whole
host of reasons, not least the effort to modernise
the Armed Forces, including both conventional weapons
and the nuclear triad.
I must say, and this is no secret, we have nothing
to hide, that indeed, we have put a lot of effort into
modernising Russia’s nuclear missile potential, and our Armed Forces. This
also applies to our Strategic Missile Forces, which are deployed on land;
this concerns our sea-based forces; this is all open information, we are not
hiding anything. We are deploying new strategic nuclear submarines with new
types of missiles on board. This also applies to our air forces.
I am referring to both the carriers, i.e. the aircraft, and the strike
systems they have under their wings. We operate in strict
compliance — I would like to emphasize this —
in strict compliance with all of our agreements, including START-3.
Once again, allow me to repeat something I consider extremely
important. In 2001, the United States unilaterally withdrew from
the ABM Treaty. This agreement was certainly the cornerstone
of the entire international security system. We were told then, “We
are not doing this against you, while you…” I said, “We will have
to react somehow, we will need to improve our strike systems
in order to defeat these missile defense systems.” And they
said, “Well, you can do whatever you want, we will proceed from the idea
that you are not doing it against us.” So that’s what we’re doing. Although
many prefer to ignore this fact, but this is exactly what we have
basically agreed to, tacitly, without signing any documents. So nothing new is
happening here.
So why are current US officials suddenly claiming that they are
the strongest and the most powerful? Yes, indeed, they do have
more missiles, submarines and aircraft carriers. We will not even argue
with that. We are saying that we are simply stronger than any aggressor.
And this is true.
Dmitry Peskov: Crimea: Point of Attraction. Introduce
yourself, please.
Maxim Nikolayenko: I am Maxim Nikolayenko, Kryminform [Crimea
Inform]. Our news agency was established barely a week before Crimea
reunified with Russia. So three years is a long time for us.
People in Crimea and Sevastopol differ
on the losses and achievements of that period. I think
that our opinions are subjective because we lack complete information. This is
not the case with you. You certainly have complete information not only
from reports but also from other sources.
How would you assess Crimea’s development and the rate
of its integration in the Russian economy? It is not
an idle question. You may have had to answer it often, but
the implementation of the federal targeted development programme
to 2020 in Crimea and Sevastopol is not very successful, though
it has not gone off the rails either. The implementation rate is less
than 5 percent in Sevastopol, and the figure for Crimea is
not available yet. In this situation, it is very difficult to see
which industries are worth developing in Crimea. Another objective reason
for this delayed development is the lack of power. Thank you
for launching a power bridge to Crimea. We had enough gas
of our own for consumption, but we face a severe shortage of additional
electricity resources for development. We need more gas and new power
stations.
Excuse me, but I must ask one more question, about
the project of the century, the Crimean Bridge.
The project is absolutely transparent, and we know almost everything
about it, except for one detail – the name. We call it
the Crimean Bridge, but Muscovites have different associations.
The name “Kerch Bridge” has not taken hold, and no other ideas are
being discussed. What would you name this bridge?
Thank you.
You just said it, Kerch Bridge. I did not
suggest the name. I suggested that the bridge be built,
and you suggested the name. (Applause)
By the way, projects to build a bridge
[to Crimea] were proposed in tsarist Russia and also
in the Soviet era. The [German] occupiers almost built
a bridge, but they miscalculated and it was destroyed
by the spring ice breakup. There is a demand for this
bridge. I hope, no, I am sure that we will eventually normalise
relations with Ukraine, and this bridge will be very important
for the development of Russian-Ukrainian trade and cultural
ties. The bridge is an important element of infrastructure,
which will have an impact on the economy as a whole,
not just the tourism industry.
Now to the beginning of your question, that is,
the progress of integration. You know that the programme
for the development of Crimea stipulates very favourable
conditions in terms of Russian law, that is, free economic zones.
However, it turned out that rapid integration comes with legal
and economic complications. And you cannot blame it all
on the federal authorities. They have provided the funds, but
you must dispose of them competently, promptly, effectively, sparingly
and rationally. But this is also a problem for local officials,
who cannot understand how to adapt their work to Russian law
and administrative procedures. Adjustment takes time. I can tell you
that this process is ongoing, and at a fast rate.
I mentioned an increase in industrial output
in Russia. In some manufacturing industries, we see major growth
of up to 20 percent. In general, growth will be low, under one
percent, around 0.7, 0.8, 0.9 percent of industrial output; while
in Crimea it is six percent, and 25 in Sevastopol due to federal
orders placed by our Russian companies.
The unemployment rate is below the Russian average. It is
at a good level in general. If we go back to the first
question, it is one of the indicators (it was not you who asked this
question, I believe). We had 5.6−5.7. This year, it will be 5.5, and even lower in Crimea,
which is very good.
Which industries could hold promise for Crimea? Of course,
ship repair, shipbuilding, and certain branches of the chemical
industry. They are already there and, overall, they work well. All they need is
support. Of course, agriculture, as well. By the way, 3
billion rubles were allocated to support agriculture this year,
I believe. That is five times more than last year, and 10 times more
than in 2014. It is important to make good use of that money
and to achieve the best value for the money spent.
Tourism,
of course. I have no doubt that with the opening
of the Kerch Bridge tourism will increase dramatically. I would
like the high-tech industry to develop in Crimea without harming
the environment and to create high-tech and well-paid jobs.
There is an issue here. Salaries and incomes in Crimea are below
the national average. In Russia, the figure is about 35,000
rubles on average, whereas in Crimea it is 24,000, perhaps 24,500,
and a little more in Sevastopol – slightly above 25,000.
But I am sure these numbers will level out.
We need
to take the necessary steps to ensure that at least
in the federal government bodies at the regional level
salaries are equal to the national average.
I have
no doubt whatsoever that in a while it will level out.
By the way,
there are Russian regions where income levels are lower than in Crimea.
But, in view of Crimea’s potential, I am certain there will be
growth in this important social area. We need to resolve issues that
have remained open for decades. I am referring, primarily,
to healthcare. It is necessary to build a good hospital,
a clinic in Simferopol. An advanced clinic will soon be built
on the southern coast of Crimea outside Yalta. There is
a problem with personnel training, because people have never used such
equipment. However, this issue is being addressed. Let us combine our efforts
and work on it together.
Yevgeny
Primakov: Yevgeny Primakov, Mezhdunarodnoye Obozrenie [Global Review], Rossiya
24, VGTRK.
Mr
President, the world is going through a period of fundamental
change. We saw the expression of popular will, when people vote
against old political concepts and old elites. Britain voted to leave
the European Union, although it remains to be seen how
the Brexit issue will pan out. Many say that Trump won because people
voted, among other things, against the old establishment, the people
they have become sick and tired of.
Have you
discussed these changes with colleagues? What will a new global landscape
look like? Do you remember what you said at the General Assembly when
the UN celebrated its 70th anniversary? You said, ‘Do you
understand what you have done?’ Where are things headed? We are still locked
in a confrontation. You have mentioned the exchange about who
has the strongest army. At his farewell news conference, Barack
Obama, who is still your colleague, said that 37 percent of Republicans
sympathise with you and hearing this Ronald Reagan would have rolled over
in his grave.
Vladimir
Putin: Hearing what?
Yevgeny
Primakov: That 37 percent of Republican voters sympathise with you.
Vladimir
Putin: Really?
Yevgeny
Primakov: Yes. And if Ronald Reagan had heard it, he would have turned
in his grave.
By the way,
we as voters very much appreciate your power and that you can reach
as far as Ronald Reagan. Our western colleagues often tell us that
you have the power to manipulate the world, designate
presidents, and interfere in elections here and there. How does
it feel to be the most powerful person on Earth? Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: I have commented on this issue on a number
of occasions. If you want to hear it one more time, I can say it
again. The current US Administration and leaders
of the Democratic Party are trying to blame all their failures
on outside factors. I have questions and some thoughts
in this regard.
We know
that not only did the Democratic Party lose the presidential
election, but also the Senate, where the Republicans have
the majority, and Congress, where the Republicans are also
in control. Did we, or I also do that? We may have celebrated
this on the “vestiges of a 17th century
chapel,” but were we the ones who destroyed the chapel,
as the saying goes? This is not the way things really are. All
this goes to show that the current administration faces system-wide
issues, as I have said at a Valdai Club meeting.
It seems
to me there is a gap between the elite’s vision of what is
good and bad and that of what in earlier times we would
have called the broad popular masses. I do not take support
for the Russian President among a large part of Republican
voters as support for me personally, but rather see it in this
case as an indication that a substantial part
of the American people share similar views with us
on the world’s organisation, what we ought to be doing, and the common
threats and challenges we are facing. It is good that there are people who
sympathise with our views on traditional values because this forms
a good foundation on which to build relations between two such
powerful countries as Russia and the United States, build them
on the basis of our peoples’ mutual sympathy.
They would
be better off not taking the names of their earlier statesmen
in vain, of course. I’m not so sure who might be turning
in their grave right now. It seems to me that Reagan would be happy
to see his party’s people winning everywhere, and would welcome
the victory of the newly elected President so adept
at catching the public mood, and who took precisely this
direction and pressed onwards to the very end, even when no one
except us believed he could win. (Applause).
The outstanding
Democrats in American history would probably be turning in their
graves though. Roosevelt certainly would be because he was an exceptional
statesman in American and world history, who knew how to unite
the nation even during the Great Depression’s bleakest years,
in the late 1930s, and during World War II. Today’s
administration, however, is very clearly dividing the nation.
The call for the electors not to vote for either
candidate, in this case, not to vote
for the President-elect, was quite simply a step towards
dividing the nation. Two electors did decide not to vote
for Trump, and four for Clinton, and here too they lost.
They are losing on all fronts and looking for scapegoats
on whom to lay the blame. I think that this is
an affront to their own dignity. It is important to know how
to lose gracefully.
But
my real hope is for us to build business-like
and constructive relations with the new President and with
the future Democratic Party leaders as well, because this is
in the interests of both countries and peoples.
That poster
over there says “Give the floor to Vologda optimists.” Vologda
optimists, please go ahead. Mr Peskov, sorry to break your plans. We must
finally listen to what greater Russia has to say.
Question:
Mr President, this is about import replacement. Something you talked about
a lot today, something our economy relies on. If we remain independent, we
will win; if we fail, we’ll have problems.
Now
the question: Do you think it might be possible in the nearest
future to establish a club of manufacturers in Russia,
an association of the most prominent representatives
of business who have achieved the greatest success in import
replacement? Here is why I am asking. Suppose, in a small
municipality there is a business that has set up a phenomenal
production line, rolling out world-class quality products
at a profit, all in a very short time. How does it spend
this profit? On two things. Firstly, it invests it in production
development, thus promoting further development and expansion of production.
Secondly, it donates these profits for the restoration
of Orthodox churches. So here is the question. Such people must be
recognized somehow, because they have literally invested millions, hundreds
of millions of rubles – and by provincial standards
you can imagine that this is a lot of money. These people’s
motivation should be of interest and relevance even
at the federal level, to the federal government
and you personally. What do you think about this?
Vladimir
Putin: I would like to thank those people who are engaged
in such projects, helping to restore our historical
and spiritual values. This applies not only to Orthodox churches, but
also to synagogues, and to other religious buildings in all
our traditional religions, including Islam, including Buddhists. Here
in Moscow, by the way, there are problems with Buddhist temples,
I am aware of it, and we will for sure help with that.
As for import
replacement, you said we either win or we have problems. But problems
always exist and they always will. But there is no doubt we will win.
And here's why. Because this so-called import replacement is already
bearing fruit. For instance in industry, our imports have declined
by 10 percentage points, from 49-something, to 39 percent. This is
a very serious change. We have made significant steps in import
replacement for a variety of industries: the pharmaceutical
industry, the chemical industry, the light industry, heavy machinery,
and road machinery (nearly 100 percent Russian-made). We have major
changes indeed. Let alone the defence industry, which has seen serious
internal structural changes. This is especially important to our achieving
technological independence.
About
agriculture. We have discussed the increase in inflation over
the past year. This year, with the growth of agricultural
production, inflation has become significantly lower (for a number
of other reasons, but due to improved agricultural performance
as well). Therefore, I have no doubt that we will achieve
the desired result. We are not going to be isolated. The Russian
economy certainly has to be part of the global system if we want
to grow – and we do want to grow and develop
the high-tech sector. And this will happen. But where there is
the possibility of restoration or recreation, or any
innovative steps that are entirely within our control, especially
in the high-tech area, we are definitely going to go down this
path and I am sure we will achieve good results, the results we
want.
Dmitry
Peskov: Sovetsky Sport, please.
Nikolai
Yaryomenko: I am Nikolai Yaryomenko from Sovetsky Sport.
We are
the oldest sport newspaper in the country, 92 years. We have
seen a great deal. But we write about more than just scores, medals
and seconds. We are concerned about the country’s future
in sport, and it appears, unfortunately, that we care more than some
of our officials do. We have seen that some officials were fired
or moved to other posts after the publication of Mr
McLaren’s two reports, even if not immediately. Can we say that the doping
situation in the country is improving thanks to these personnel
reshuffles? Will it improve, or are the actions taken towards this
end not enough yet?
My second
sub-question is: Can the mega-monster, WADA, be reformed or should it
be replaced with some other organisation? It is not a strictly sports
question, as many people see a political component. Is there
a political component?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: Let me begin with doping as such and the problem
of doping. First, Russia has never created – this is absolutely
impossible – a state-run doping system and has never supported
doping, and we will do our best to prevent this
in the future. I wanted to repeat this
as my first point.
Secondly,
like any other country, we have a doping problem. We must admit this
and by doing so, we must do everything in our power
to prevent any doping. As such, we need to closely cooperate
with the International Olympic Committee, WADA and other
international organisations. We will do this. I hope that the ongoing
changes, which are not only about personnel but are systemic
and structural changes, will help us achieve these goals.
In addition, the Investigative Committee
and the Prosecutor’s Office are investigating all cases
of alleged doping, and they will bring these cases to their logical
conclusion.
As for the so-called
whistle-blowers who ran away from the country, grass up everyone
or make up things, I would like to say a few words.
I do not remember exactly the name of the person who fled
Russia. He headed the Russian Anti-Doping Agency. But where did he work
before that? In Canada. And what did he do after that? He came
to Russia and brought all kinds of nasty stuff with him, while
serving as a high-ranking official. It is hard to imagine that
he managed to cross the Canadian or US border carrying banned
substances without being detected. You know what it means. Many of you
have crossed the US and Canadian borders, there are very strict
controls there. He travelled back and forth many times to bring this
nasty stuff here. It was his personal undertaking, he forced people
to take these substances, and even came up with some sort
of sanctions against those who refused to do so, for example,
the swimmers. When he was exposed, he escaped law enforcement, fled,
and started slurring everyone in order to protect himself
and secure a place in the sun in hope
of a better life. At a certain point he will get what he
wants. But after that, just as it happens to any rascal, they will
drop him. Nobody needs people like this. Why did he not fight here? This makes
me think that somebody was behind him. They waited for a certain
moment and started spreading these false stories. But this does not mean
that Russia does not have a problem with doping. We do have this problem,
and we must fight it. We must acknowledge this, and in doing so
we must focus on athletes’ health.
As for WADA,
I am not entitled to assess its performance. It is up
to the International Olympic Committee to do it. However,
as I have already said, operations of any anti-doping agency,
including WADA, should be completely transparent, clear and verifiable,
and we must be informed about the results of their work. What
does this mean? This means that the international sports community should
know who is to be tested, when and by what means, what
the results are and what measures are being taken to punish
those responsible, what is being done to prevent such incidents
in the future. What’s going on? Are we talking about the defence
industry? No. But in this case it is unclear why everything is so
secretive? This should be an open process. They always ask us to be
transparent. Transparency is very important in this area.
I cannot
fail to agree with what a number of legendary athletes said
about the recent decisions to cancel major competitions
in Russia. They said that nobody knew anything. But if it was known
before, why was it made public right now? You know, politics are always
involved in cases like this. Just as culture, sport should be free
from politics, because sport and culture should both help bring people
together instead of driving them apart.
Kristina
Liver: Kristina Liver, regional newspaper Altaiskaya Pravda, Altai
Territory.
Mr
President, I would like to ask you about regional loan debt. We all
know that this is a big issue.
My second
question is, are there plans to give more independence
to the regions regarding their financial possibilities?
Let me add
to this that Altai Territory’s state debt comes to 6 percent
of the region’s own budget revenue. This is the lowest figure in Siberia
and the sixth best result in Russia as a whole. Mr
President, will the state authorities support regions that do not get into
debt, do not borrow from commercial banks, live according to their means
and pursue a balanced financial policy?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: The Government supports all regions. For donor regions we
try to create the conditions they need to remain donors. We help
them to develop infrastructure, for example, like
in the case of Moscow Region and Moscow. We have done
a lot to develop Moscow Region’s infrastructure. It is enough
to look at the latest developments in the transport
sector in Moscow and Moscow Region.
It is
the same for other regions too. Take St Petersburg, for example,
where the Western High-Speed Diameter motorway has just started operation.
This is a ground-breaking new piece of transport infrastructure
for the entire north-western part of our country. There are good
examples in other regions too.
As for regional
debt, yes, this is a serious issue. Under Government and Finance
Ministry rules, a region’s debt should not come to more than 50
percent of its own revenue. In this respect, Altai Territory really
is in a very good position. This indicates that the regional
authorities are carrying out a balanced and highly professional
budget policy.
As it
happens, only five regions have not kept to this principle, and these
regions do need particular support and attention, of course. Overall
though, the issue is a serious one. Combined regional debt comes
to more than 2 trillion rubles today, though the Government is taking
necessary measures to resolve this problem. This year, if I remember
well, a little over 380 billion rubles was spent on refinancing these
regions’ loans, taking their debts away from commercial banks and putting
them into Finance Ministry loans instead, which are accorded for long-term
periods and at a symbolic one-percent interest rate. This work
will continue and we will make the needed resources available
for this purpose next year as well.
Steven
Rosenberg: Steven Rosenberg, BBC News. Thank you. I’d like to ask
a question in English. Is that okay?
Mr
President, your country has been accused of state-sponsored hacking with
the aim of influencing the results of the US
presidential election.
And President
Obama has hinted very strongly, he thinks that you are behind that. He said
that not much happens in Russia without Vladimir Putin.
And President
Obama revealed that he told you personally to cut it out. So, what did you
tell him in response? And can you confirm that you were warned
by Washington not to tamper with America’s election, warned
in a message via the so-called Red Phone, the crisis line
between your two countries?
And finally,
just coming back to the point about Donald Trump’s tweet yesterday.
Are you not concerned there is a danger of a new arms race, if
America is talking about boosting its nuclear arsenal? Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: The United States paved the way to a new arms
race by withdrawing from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. This is
obvious. When one party unilaterally withdrew from the treaty
and announced that it would be building a nuclear umbrella
for itself, the other party either has to build the same
umbrella (which seems unnecessary to us considering the questionable
effectiveness of this programme), or develop efficient means
of overcoming this missile defence system and improving its own
missile strike system, which we are doing successfully. We did not concoct
this. We have to respond to this challenge.
Speaking
about our progress (and we have advanced significantly), yes, we are
progressing, but within the boundaries of our agreements.
I would like to emphasise this. We are not breaching any terms,
including START III. We abide by all the agreements regarding
the number of nuclear delivery vehicles and warheads.
Just
recently, US observers came to our nuclear plants and watched how we
produce missiles and nuclear devices. Do you all remember that? Instead
of maintaining our relations in a similar fashion,
the United States withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. It
was not we who did it.
Yes, we
have made progress in improving our nuclear triad systems, including
the means to break through missile defence. This system is currently
much more effective than missile defence, it is true. Perhaps this is what is
prompting the United States to improve its own nuclear arsenal. Well,
this is what they are doing.
Take,
for example, the replacement of tactical nuclear weapons based
in other countries, including Europe, including your own country, Great
Britain. This is happening. I hope that the audience of your
programmes and online readers are aware of this. American tactical
nuclear weapons are being replaced in Turkey, the UK
and the Netherlands. So if anyone is instigating this arms race, it
is not us.
But
I would like to stress that this is also very important for our
domestic consumption, for domestic policy. We will never be dragged into
an arms race to spend more than we can afford. I already said
in my answers to several questions in the beginning
that defence spending amounted to 2.7 percent of the budget
in 2011 and 4.7 percent this year but next year we plan 3.3 percent
and, eventually, 2.8 percent by 2019. We will maintain this bar because we
have already taken some necessary measures to move towards modernisation
that must bring us to the point where 70 percent of the armaments
will be new and advanced by 2021. Now the advanced weapons
amount to almost 50 percent, with around 60 in some segments
and 90 percent in the nuclear segment. Therefore, we are
satisfied with the current progress. Everything is going according
to plan.
As concerns
interference and what we discussed with President Obama. You may have
noticed that I never speak about the private conversations
I have with my colleagues.
First,
about the interference. I already responded to one of your
fellow journalists from the United States. The defeated party always
tries to blame somebody on the outside. They should be looking
for these problems closer to home.
Everybody
keeps forgetting the most important point. For example, some hackers
breached email accounts of the US Democratic Party leadership. Some
hackers did that. But, as the President-elect rightly noted, does
anyone know who those hackers were? Maybe they came from another country, not
Russia. Maybe somebody just did it from their couch or bed. These days, it
is very easy to designate a random country as the source
of attack while being in a completely different location.
But is this
important? I think the most important thing is the information
that the hackers revealed to the public. Did they compile
or manipulate the data? No, they did not. What is the best proof
that the hackers uncovered truthful information? The proof is that
after the hackers demonstrated how public opinion had been manipulated
within the Democratic Party, against one candidate rather than
the other, against candidate Sanders, the Democratic National
Committee Chairperson resigned. This means she admitted that the hackers
revealed the truth. Instead of apologising to the voters
and saying, “Forgive us, our bad, we will never do this again,” they
started yelling about who was behind the attacks. Is that important?
As concerns
my conversation with President Obama, again, it is my rule
to never talk about this in public. I am aware that his aide
recently made a public statement regarding that conversation with Mr Obama.
You can ask my aide, he will answer. Mr Peskov is here.
Environment.
This is important.
Sergei
Lisovsky: Mr President, thank you for the opportunity to ask you
a question.
I want
to wish you a happy New Year and good health. The same goes
to all our colleagues in the audience and, in general,
everyone in this country.
I have
a strategically important question which deals with Russia’s development
in the sphere of environment. You declared the year 2017
the Year of Environment. I am aware of it,
and I had published in the newspaper the text
of your Executive Order on the State Council meeting scheduled
for December 27 that will discuss a strategically important
topic – Russia’s environmental development for future generations.
This is the first time it is being articulated in the ideology
at the official level that the environment is for future
generations.
Here’s
my question: won’t officials fail to live up
to the upcoming Year of Environment? As far
as I can remember – and I have been publishing
the newspaper for 17 years now… Allow me to introduce
myself – Sergei Lisovsky, editor-in-chief of the Society
and Environment newspaper. I have been publishing it in St
Petersburg for 17 years now. From my experience I can see that
officials failed to live up to the Year of Environment
in 2013. I asked you this question during the G20 meeting. You
admitted it and said that you will fix it. There’s a transcript
on the kremlin.ru website.
Vladimir
Putin: You got me.
Sergei
Lisovsky: I have a specific proposal. I have extensive
experience in this area. I would like, if possible, to attend
the State Council meeting on December 27.
I have
a specific proposal and a question. Is it possible to open
environmental departments at the embassies of the Russian
Federation so that they could articulate Russian domestic policy
for external consumption? I believe that the West is no longer
concerned about the environment and engages in anything from
manipulation, wars, and revolutions around the world, whereas
the issue that the West proclaimed in the 1990s –
sustainable development – has gone down to something like 105th position
on the list of their priorities. On the contrary,
Russia is taking the environment to the forefront. This is
my first point – to open these departments.
My second
point is probably very important for Russia's domestic policy. We need
to change the information and environmental policy on our
TV toward environmental and patriotic policy. Because you can see just
about anything there from all kinds of shows and glamour which
destroys young people’s minds. If instead we offer environmental and patriotic
broadcasts, they would formulate a holistic outlook
on the world, and we wouldn’t have to deal with different
consequences, such as corruption or other bad things. That is, people
would be healthier. Hence, my question. Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: On the one hand, you said that everything failed in 2013.
On the other hand, you said that we are doing a lot
to protect the environment, and attacked our Western partners
a bit because they do little in that regard.
I cannot
agree with you that the Western countries, the United States
and Europe, are paying less attention to protecting
the environment than before. The best evidence of this is
the efforts of the French President to promote
the adoption of the Paris agreements on reducing
atmospheric emissions. France did an enormous amount of work
in this area and not without success. We agreed to limit
emissions, and this was a complicated issue. Russia made fairly
stringent commitments and I do not doubt that we will comply with
them. For the time being it is difficult for me to say to what
extent other countries will follow suit. We must still deal with
the matter of implementing these agreements. We are ready
for this in practical terms. We will have to see what
the accords on implementing these agreements will be like
technologically, but we will deal with this.
In our
domestic policy, environmental protection has obviously been and will
remain one of the main components of our entire work. We must
leave an environmentally prosperous country to the future
generations. I am quite concerned about pollution and huge dumping
sites. Quite recently, at the Russian National Front Forum we
discussed this in detail. Right now I will not take up too much time
of all those present – there are other matters to discuss –
but you know that the Government has a definite plan on this
issue and we will be working on it all.
Forest
conservation is another area. Obviously, we will not be able to do without
changes to current regulations. Naturally, we must provide raw materials
for the timber industry as well as jobs
for the people employed by it. However, we must be equally
concerned with forest protection because if we do not do this, if we do not
take care of forests and parks in towns and around large
cities, we will soon have nothing left at all, because removing forests
from these places is the easiest and cheapest thing to do –
they have the roads and other infrastructure.
This
task requires a very serious, thoughtful approach and analysis
involving such organisations as yours and the media. I am
very grateful to you – both to you and your colleagues who
are engaged in this work. They snoop around forests and are not
afraid of axes. Indeed, this work is like combat. I am hoping we will
continue this work in cooperation with you. I would like
to invite you to attend a meeting of the State
Council. Mr Peskov, make a note please.
Dmitry
Peskov: Yes, will do.
Vladimir
Putin: The word “Pensions” is written there. It is a very
important issue. Please.
Yulia
Izmaylova: Hello. My name is Yulia Izmaylova, editor with
the newspaper Molodoi Leninets, Penza.
My question
concerns the categories of people who are allowed to retire
early. We hear about a growing number of cases in which these
people, including teachers and medical personnel, have to turn
to the courts to defend their right for an early
retirement. This brings me to my question: has the need emerged
for the system of early retirement to be reformed? If
possible, can you tell us what pensioners should expect next year?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: Since you are concerned with this matter, you should know that not
long ago, in the 1990s and early 2000s, the size
of pensions did not depend on the length of service
or the amount of wages. We applied a one-size-fits-all
approach, and many people pointed to this, and said that this
was unfair.
We have
made major changes. What exactly did we change, and what is the basis
of the current pension system? It rests on three pillars:
the length of service, the size of wages before retirement,
and the age at which a person decides to go
on pension and formalise his or her pension rights. These are
the three elements underlying the new pension system. They will
remain unchanged, and we will be guided by these fundamental
principles to further improve our pension system.
As for early
retirement, it is true that we should pay more attention to and more
thoroughly analyse this issue. There are very many groups of people who
are allowed to retire early. I will not jump ahead and talk about
our plans, but I will tell you that any innovations in this area
should be discussed in public and should only be adopted after
a thorough analysis. We will proceed very carefully.
As for the near
future, I can tell you that early next year, all pensioners, including
military retirees and comparable categories, will each receive
a one-time payment of 5,000 rubles, irrespective
of the size of their pensions, just as we planned.
By the way, 5,000 rubles is a bigger sum for many
categories of pensioners than the potential indexation of their
pensions throughout the year. We have approved sufficient budgetary
allocations next year to index retirement pensions to actual
inflation in 2016 on February 1. In other words, we will
resume operation in compliance with the relevant law. I believe
that social pensions will be indexed on April 1.
Dmitry
Peskov: How about TASS News Agency? The media heavyweights have been left
out in the cold so far.
Veronika
Romanenkova: TASS News Agency, Veronika Romanenkova.
I have
a question on Ukraine. The Ukrainian crisis has evolved into
a frozen conflict. There is a feeling that the two sides have
stopped hearing each other. Where is the way out of this deadlock?
There is the Normandy Format. How effective is it? Was there any desire to change
anything? Do your meetings with the leaders of Germany, France
and Ukraine help resolve anything? By the way, what do you think
about the prospects for visa-free travel between Ukraine
and the European Union?
Vladimir
Putin: Thank you.
Another
colleague has a poster with ‘Ukraine’ written on it. Please, ask your
question too, and I will try and answer them all at once.
Dmitry
Peskov: By the way, this is a journalist from Ukraine who has
been working in Moscow for a long time.
Remark:
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: You’re welcome.
Question:
I am not sure that you will be able to combine the two
questions.
Mr Putin,
in recent years your country under your leadership has caught so many
Ukrainian citizens that even world-famous film directors are asking you
to free a Ukrainian director. As a Ukrainian reporter,
I would like to ask you to grant clemency and release
Ukrinform reporter Roman Suschenko, since cases brought against Ukrainian
nationals seem to have a political agenda. Under the torture
that Crimean commandos Zakhtey and Panov had experienced anyone, including
me and even you, would admit to being a Ukrainian spy.
I would
like to ask you a specific question. You have said
on a number of occasions that you felt compelled to protect
the Russian-speaking population in Crimea and Donbass. Last year
you said that it was never a secret that you had sent people
to Donbass to deal with military matters. Could you clarify where
this is mentioned in the Minsk Agreements, and do you understand
that if you retire someday, Ukrainians will still view Russians
as occupiers.
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: It would be good to begin by making sure that
the Ukrainian army is not viewed as an occupying force
in Donbass, which is Ukrainian territory. This is what matters. This is
my first point.
Secondly,
as for freeing people. We are doing all we can to release people
detained by both sides. The fuller this exchange will be,
the better.
There was
a time when President Poroshenko proposed exchanging ‘everyone
for everyone.’ I fully support this approach. It later turned out
that there are some details in this ‘everyone for everyone’ formula
that do not suit all of Donbass representatives. What are these details?
In fact, Ukrainian authorities consider the detention of people
in Donbass to be illegal. At the same time, there are many
people imprisoned in Ukraine whom the Ukrainian authorities consider
to be lawfully convicted, and refuse to put them
on the exchange lists. This is the crux
of the problem. If we are to have this exchange, there should be
a decision to pardon these people and free them all. Otherwise,
it would be very hard to agree on anything.
On the subject
of directors and journalists, the latter should do journalism
and the former make shows and films.
Regarding
the detained Ukrainian military service personnel and military
intelligence officers, no one tortured or beat them. It is easy enough
to check the confessions they have made. It should be no difficulty
for the media to check whether they are military intelligence
officers or not. They have given full details, not just their names
and registration information, but the names of their units,
commanders, the units they served in, the missions given them,
and their addresses and meeting places on Russian soil,
including in Crimea. They have given all this information. This provides
a whole range of information and the different elements
confirm each other. This all has to stop. If the political will can
be found to do this, it will be easier to resolve the other
issues.
Coming back
to journalists and movie directors, of course no one wants
to detain journalists if they are simply carrying out their professional
duties. But what are we to do with a film director if he is preparing
to commit terrorist attacks, and this was proven in court? Are
we to let him go simply because he is a movie director? But how does
he differ from a career military intelligence officer planning to do
the same thing? If we let a film director go today, will we have
to let go career intelligence officers preparing terrorist attacks
tomorrow? What difference is there between them in this particular case?
Do we let one go today and have others come tomorrow? We need
to agree that all of this must stop, and only then can we start
considering amnesties. I don’t have anything against this idea.
I didn’t
answer the question from TASS.
You were
certainly right. It is hard to combine questions.
(Addressing
Veronika Romanenkova) What was it there? The Minsk agreements,
the Normandy format, and what else?
Veronika
Romanenkova: Your opinion on the possibility of introducing
visa-free travel between Ukraine and the European Union.
Vladimir
Putin: The Normandy format has indeed not proven especially
effective. It remains only to regret this lack of real effect. But
this is the only mechanism we have at present
and I personally think that work in this format should continue.
If we abandon this instrument, the situation would worsen quite rapidly,
and we would not want this to happen.
As for visa-free
travel to Europe for Ukrainian citizens, I fully support it.
Moreover, I think visas in Europe are a Cold War anachronism,
and need to be abolished as quickly as possible. So if
Ukraine, Ukrainian citizens are allowed to travel to Europe
visa-free, I think it would be a step in the right
direction. But as far as I know, we are only talking visas that
do not give the right to work. So the question is, will
the inflow of Ukrainian workers increase anyway? It certainly will.
In Russia, according to preliminary data alone, there are 3 million
Ukrainians. If they can go to Europe without a visa and earn
a little more, people will certainly try to move there, even from
Russia, let alone from Ukraine. This will put a serious burden
on the labour market in Europe.
On the other
hand, there might be negative implications for Ukraine as well.
Without the right to work, Ukrainians coming to work
in Europe will find themselves in a very humiliating position.
This means that they will have to work illegally, that is, they will
arrive, say, for three months under the visa-free agreement, then go
back to Ukraine, check in and go back immediately. This means
that they will work illegally. This means that they will not enjoy social
protection or any protection, for that matter. They will be subjected
to serious exploitation. And that is bad. Therefore, if they allow
visa-free entry, they need to give work permits as well.
Fuad
Safarov: Fuad Safarov, Sputnik news agency, Turkish office.
Mr Putin,
for the first time, Russia and Turkey have succeeded
in resolving a major important issue with Syria without involving
the West. I am referring to Aleppo. So, Russia and Turkey
have such potential. But will Ankara and Moscow be able use this potential
in the future? Will Iran, Russia and Turkey withstand
the insidious games in the Middle East? This new triangle, this
alliance – will it be able to play a key role in settling
the Syrian conflict?
Allow me
to ask a second question. You and Mr Erdogan reached
an agreement on Syria in October 2015, but it was
an informal agreement. Then a Russian plane was shot down.
In June, relations began to normalise. That was followed
by a coup attempt. Today, Russia and Turkey have begun
to collaborate on a settlement in Aleppo, but
the Russian Ambassador was murdered in Ankara. Do not you think this
is a coincidence?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: Let us start with the final part of your question, with
the tragedy that happened recently, I mean the murder
of our ambassador. I think primarily, that was certainly
an attempt to compromise Russia, to compromise Russian-Turkish
relations. No doubt about that.
You know,
I will be straight with you. I was sceptical about the idea that
our aircraft was downed without the order of the Turkey’s top
leadership but by people who wanted to harm Russian-Turkish
relations. But now after the gun attack on the ambassador, which
was committed by a riot police officer, I am beginning
to change my mind. Now it seems to me that anything is possible.
And the infiltration of Turkey’s government agencies, including
law-enforcement and the army, by destructive elements is
certainly deep. Right now I am not at liberty to point fingers
elsewhere and accuse someone of something, but we see that this is
a fact, this is taking place.
Will it
obstruct the development of Russian-Turkish relations? No, it will
not, because we understand the importance and role of Russian-Turkish
relations and will do everything to develop them with due account
of Turkish interests and, no less important, Russian interests. During
the past year, or to be more precise, after
the normalisation, we managed to find compromise. I hope we will
be equally successful at finding compromise in the future, too.
Now
a few words about Aleppo. Indeed, the President of Turkey
and the President and all leaders of Iran in general
played a very large role in resolving the situation around
Aleppo. This involved exchanges and unblocking several areas with
a Shiite majority. Perhaps this will sound immodest but this would have
been simply impossible without our participation, without Russia’s
participation.
So, all
this cooperation in the trilateral format definitely played
a very important role in resolving problems around Aleppo.
Indicatively, and this is extremely important, especially
at the last stage, this was achieved without military action,
as the Defence Minister just reported to me about this work at the final
stage. We simply organised and carried out the evacuation
of tens of thousands of people, and not only radical armed
groups and their representatives but also women and children.
I am referring to the over 100,000 people who were evacuated
from Aleppo. Thousands were moved out of other residential areas
in exchange for this withdrawal from Aleppo.
This is
the biggest – and I want to emphasise this
for all to hear – the biggest international humanitarian
action in the modern world. It could not have been carried out
without the active efforts of the Turkish leadership,
the Turkish President, the President of Iran and all other
Iranian leaders, and without our active participation. Needless
to say, this would not have been achieved without the goodwill
and efforts of Mr Assad, the President of the Syrian
Arab Republic, and his staff. So, experience shows that there is
a need for this format and we will, of course, develop it.
I would
not disregard the interests and the involvement of other
countries in the region, such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and,
of course, Egypt. Undoubtedly, it would also be wrong to approach
issues of this kind without a global player such
as the United States, so we are willing to work with everyone.
The next
step, while we are at it, should be an agreement
on a ceasefire throughout Syria, immediately followed
by practical talks on political reconciliation. We suggested Astana,
Kazakhstan, as a neutral territory, and the President
of Turkey agreed. The President of Iran also agreed as did
President Assad. President Nazarbayev has kindly agreed to provide this
venue. I very much hope that we will manage to put it
on a practical footing.
Channel
One, please.
Anton
Vernitsky: This has become a tradition: I tried three times during
the previous news conference as well
Mr Putin,
Anton Vernitsky, Channel One. I have a question about
the internal situation in Russia, namely, taxes and fees.
There are
taxes, such as income tax and real estate tax, which have been
gradually increasing over the past five years and will reach their
peak at some point – they increase by increments of 20
percent.
However,
in addition to taxes which we all pay regularly, there are fees that
are very similar to taxes, but are not. For example, fees
for the capital repair of buildings. On the face
of it, healthcare services look free, but some of the services
are provided for a fee. Education, kids go to school
for free, but some additional education is also provided
for a fee. Take parking, for instance. Vehicle owners have
probably gotten used to paid parking in downtown Moscow, but paid
parking is already coming to suburban commuter areas.
Are you
aware of what is happening in this area? Should we be expecting more
surprises here? Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: You know, you need to distinguish between taxes and non-tax
fees. Taxes are made up of three components: personal income tax, vehicle
tax and property tax, which are still the world’s lowest.
Let us
begin with the 13-percent personal income tax. Of course, you are
aware that when we introduced the flat rate of 13 percent
in 2001, there were lots of doubts. I, too, had many doubts.
I was concerned that the budget would lose revenue, because those who
earn more would pay less, and whether there would be social justice,
and so on.
I have
already mentioned it several times, but, as I see, I should say
it again. The outcome of introducing a flat 13-percent personal
income tax was that personal income tax collection has increased
by a factor of seven. Those funds go to the treasury
and are then distributed to address social issues – this is what
social justice is all about.
Can
a differentiated individual income tax system be introduced? It can. Maybe
that will be done one day, but right now I do not think it would be
sensible. Because as soon as we do this, the first step would be
followed by the second, third and fifth, we would get entangled
in this differentiation and in the end this would lead
to tax evasion, and budget revenues would decline.
Regarding
social justice, it can be achieved by other means, without changing
the flat tax system. How? Such decisions have already been taken. This
applies, for example, to raising the tax on expensive
transport vehicles. This has already been done, and the system can be
fine-tuned. Raising the tax on expensive property. That has also been
done, and the system can also be fine- tuned, and so on.
Now
the second component: non-tax levies. Do I know how that happens?
Of course I do. Do I know the intricate details of how
this works? Of course not. But is this even possible? You see, this is not
a tax system. These are tariffs and levies that are set either
at the level of municipalities, of which there are thousands,
or at the level of federal entities: it is very difficult
to keep track of everything there. This is a problem – now
I will talk about how we plan to deal with it – because
the burden is really growing.
How should
this problem be addressed? In any event, it is necessary to see what
is happening in this area. To this end, the Government has
received its instructions, and next year, I believe by June,
what is known as a registry of non-tax levies will be created so
that we can have a clear understanding of what is going
on in the country, in the regions
and municipalities with respect to this burden, and regulation
will be exercised accordingly.
Regarding
regulation at the federal level, let me remind you that we have
frozen tariffs. We proceed based on the idea that, say, tariffs,
as a derivative of energy and heating tariffs, will be
reflected accordingly in housing maintenance and utilities rates,
which is extremely important.
However,
the main method of controlling tariffs in this area is
to reduce inflation, and as I said
at the beginning of our conversation today, last year it was
12.9 percent and this year it will be the lowest on record
in the entire modern history of Russia. If we maintain our
efforts to bring it down and, for example, reach a level
of four percent, that will significantly stabilise the tariff
situation.
Let us move
over there. Mr Peskov, take a look, you have a better view – you
sit higher up. As the Chinese say, “he who sits higher sees further,”
and they are right.
Dmitry
Peskov: Perhaps we should hear the Kuzbass miners?
Andrei
Zheltukhin: Good afternoon Mr President. My name is Andrei Zheltukhin
and I represent the news site 142, which is part
of the holding company Kuznetsky Alyans. I have questions
on two issues of concern to our region’s people.
Firstly,
the M-53 Baikal federal highway crosses the centre of Kemerovo
and this creates big problems in the form of traffic jams,
accidents, road wear, and exhaust fumes. Kemerovo is probably
the only city beyond the Urals that does not have a bypass road.
Our company’s founder and long-serving director, Mikhail Shkuropatsky, is
even ready to take the initiative and collect money
to build a bypass road, but this will obviously not be enough.
My question is, can the federal authorities do something to help
resolve this problem?
My second
question deals with the coal sector’s development, a subject
of concern to me, of course. It is believed today that coal is
a polluting fuel that damages the environment and should
therefore be abandoned, but no one wants to hear about the new
technologies that exist, and yet today’s modern coal power plants have
technologies that capture all harmful emissions. What is your view
on the future of Kuzbass and Russian coal? Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: First, concerning infrastructure development. In this case,
the issue covers many different areas, infrastructure development itself,
and resolving environmental issues. We always support projects
of this kind. If someone is ready to co-finance these projects, let
me assure you that we will do everything possible to support them
at the federal and regional levels. We will definitely examine
the proposals that come in from the regions and will do all
we can to ensure these projects go ahead, all the more so
in a region like Kuzbass, where we know there is a serious
burden on the environment. This is my first point.
Second,
as for coal and its future as a primary source
of energy, there is much talk about the need
for a transition to alternative energy. By the way,
Russia is moving in this direction, including hydrogen fuel, wind
and solar power. We are working on all these issues. I have
recently visited a RUSNANO company where this cutting-edge forward-looking
technology is used.
At the same
time, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that
the European Commission, for example, has decided to scale back
subsidies in these areas. Why? Because it is very expensive.
Of course, these technologies should be improved. But for now they
are quite costly, and they are surely less efficient compared
to traditional energy sources. Here is what I would like coal miners,
as well as other colleagues, to hear: today more coal is used
across the world than oil and gas combined. Well, maybe not
necessarily oil and gas combined, but it is certainly ahead
of natural gas, and maybe even oil and gas combined. This goes
to show that coal remains a key element in the global
energy mix.
You were
right to say that the latest technology should be used in order
to make coal more eco-friendly. I know that Kuzbass is acting along
these lines. Many industrial companies across the world
and in Russia implement high-technology processing methods
to create new products, including coal dust that can be used
in the wider energy industry. I am confident that if we move
in this direction Kuzbass and coal miners elsewhere will have
a bright future and a lot of work. Of course, this is
related to the overall economic development in Russia
and beyond, including the metals industry.
Unfortunately,
the metals industry has somewhat contracted both globally
and in Russia, and there are some challenges that need
to be addressed. However, I am confident that it has a future.
Dmitry
Peskov: RIA Novosti, regarding oil.
Yelena
Glushakova: As a follow-up to my colleague’s question.
Yelena Glushakova, RIA Novosti.
I have
a question about oil. What will happen with it? What do you think will
happen to oil prices? The current price is $40–$50 per barrel. Is
that enough for the Russian economy? Will the Russian budget
cope with reduced oil production, which we agreed to as part
of our agreement with OPEC? What price of oil, do you think, is
the best for the Russian economy?
Vladimir
Putin: Today, as far as I know, Brent is selling not
at $45, but $55, I checked this morning. I have already
mentioned that we are drafting a budget based on conservative
estimates of $40 per barrel. If you go back to the first
questions of today’s agenda, as the bureaucrats say, then
I can tell you that we got the results that we did due
to the fact that the real situation was worse than our
forecasts, because we drafted the 2016 budget based on oil prices
of $50 per barrel, but it ended up being $40. Despite that, both
the GDP trends and inflation have changed, and we have kept our
reserves. So, this is a significant factor in the overall
analysis of developments in our economy. The global economy is
worse off, but our performance is better. This means that the economy has
adapted and will continue to grow.
Now, about
the prices and their impact on us. No one can say for sure,
this is a complex issue which depends on many variables,
and predicting them is almost impossible. Our Ministry of Energy has
already provided its forecasts. We believe that the excess oil will leave
the market in the second half of 2017, and oil prices
will stabilise. We hope they will stabilise at their current levels.
Now, with
regard to how our economy will respond to a decline in oil
production, I can say that we took this step deliberately. We have
a relatively high ”production shelf“ as of the end
of this year. The decline in production, which we have committed
to, stands at 300,000 barrels per day for the period from
January to June. This will be a smooth reduction, which will have
almost no effect on the overall production volumes, which is
absolutely acceptable for us. However, we expect that this will lead
to an increase in oil prices, which has already happened.
If this
state of affairs remains unchanged, how will it affect the budget and our
companies? The $10 difference in oil prices would mean additional
budget revenue of 1.75 trillion rubles. For oil companies, despite
declining production, the difference of $10 in oil prices will
provide an additional income of 750 billion rubles. That is, everyone
will win in the end. This is the first such OPEC decision over
the past eight years, I believe.
Of course,
this result would not have been possible without our good will to work
in conjunction with OPEC. We will continue to cooperate with OPEC,
meaning we will meet our obligations. However, we are not OPEC members,
and while we maintain contacts with them, we, as we meet our
obligations, are free from any other commitments until we achieve common
results. So far the results are evident, we are striving to achieve
them. We believe that such cooperation is beneficial both
for the countries that are not members of the cartel,
and for OPEC itself.
Marat
Sagadatov: Hello, Mr President.
Marat
Sagadatov, editor-in-chief of newspaper Za Suverenitet Rossii
[For Russia’s Sovereignty], Ufa.
Let me
start by thanking you on behalf of our readers for all you
are doing to strengthen our defence capability
and for the fight you are leading to restore
and bolster our country’s sovereignty. We hear you very clearly,
and when you say that some might wish to live in a state
of semi-occupation, we certainly do not, and we do not want
a weak government controlled from abroad, – we agree with you
completely.
As we
see it, our country has internal issues that we could describe as follows.
Of late, the media have started making frequent use
of the word ‘war’ in combination with various qualifiers –
cold war, hybrid war, information war. But the word ‘war’ remains
the main word here. In a war situation, our people, who have
a good genetic memory, always recall our history and the past
wars we fought and always won, even if we encountered losses
and setbacks on the way. Our memories return us to more
recent history – to the Great Patriotic War.
Comparing
that time with today’s situation, the following question arises. Our
economy, industry, ministries and agencies often follow the rules
laid down by international organisations and are managed
by consulting companies. Even our defence enterprises have foreign
consulting firms auditing them. You raised the issue of NPOs
(non-profit organisations) at one point, and we went
on to learn of foreign influence and foreign agents. But
the consulting issue has not been addressed.
Our readers
ask if it is not time to do some import replacement in this area too,
and is it not up to us to decide what development course
to take and what we need to do? These issues concern not just
the economy but, regrettably, spill over into the ideological sphere,
too. There are a great many issues in this area. In other words,
the stream of imports that came flooding into our country brought
with it numerous problems, which have already been mentioned today, and we
saw our traditional values getting trampled underfoot. We think there is
a need for some ‘import replacement’ in this area, too.
Given that
this issue has become ever more urgent of late, I would like
to know if any measures are planned in this area?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: You are talking now about economic sovereignty – an extremely
important issue.
As for patriotic
sentiments – you are from Ufa, aren’t you? – we know well
the sentiments in Bashkiria. It has always been this way
by tradition in Bashkortostan, even in olden times. Let me
recall that during the 1812 Patriotic War, Bashkiria armed, mounted
on horses and sent to the front its entire male population
starting from age 16. It did the same in the Great Patriotic War
of 1941–1945. We should certainly be proud of this and support
this.
As for economic
self-sufficiency, as I have already said, this concerns not only
import substitution but also the independence of our financial
system, bank cards, interbank settlements, and so on. There were many
elements that we considered immutable and immune to potential political
differences.
However, it
turned out that this was not the case and that we were simply
cheated: when it was necessary to exert political pressure, they instantly
started using economic levers. Therefore, we should bear this in mind,
especially when it comes to our defences.
As for consulting
and various rating agencies, which is no less important, we should,
of course, think it over. This is a complicated issue. It is
abundantly clear that we should establish our national rating agency
and develop our own consulting service. We are doing this
and the only problem is that these structures must be absolutely
transparent and absolutely accepted by the business community.
Otherwise their activities would be pointless.
If we
remove all our partners from the market without creating similar
structures that enjoy the respect and recognition of our
businesses and international business, our entrepreneurs will sustain
certain losses. This is the case, because everything that will be brought
to grass, as miners put it, all information released by our
domestic companies will not be considered by potential investors, if these
companies are not recognised worldwide. This is a bad story, as this
may lead to a cut-down on investment, and not only foreign
investment but our own investment as well.
However, we
do need to move forward and enhance our sovereignty in this
area, and we will certainly work on this.
Let us give
the floor to the Poles. This will probably be about
the difficulties and tragedies of the past, referring
to the airplane [crash]. What would you like to know?
Andrzej
Zaucha: Good afternoon.
Andrzej
Zaucha, TVN, Poland. Indeed, two years ago I asked you here in this
hall about the plane wreckage. You said you would talk
to the Investigative Committee. Here is what I would like to know:
How did they respond? We know that they responded and that
the investigation is continuing. However, unfortunately, seven years have
already passed since the tragedy. Perhaps all studies
and examinations have been completed and so only a political decision
is needed to hand over the wreckage. Maybe that should be considered?
Of course, this is entirely in your hands.
And another
point. Recently it has often been said that Poland is moving away from
the European Union. There are similar trends in other European
countries. From your perspective, is a weak Europe more convenient, more
beneficial for Russia? Is Russia using all these disagreements, conflicts
and problems within the European Union to its own advantage
or is that not the case?
Vladimir
Putin: I will begin with the first question. Indeed,
the Investigative Committee is conducting an investigation
and until it is over they need the plane wreckage. This is
the first point.
Second,
regarding the essence of the matter. Listen, all
the speculation on this issue needs to stop. A terrible
tragedy happened. I personally read [the transcript of]
the conversation between the pilot and the man from
the late president’s security who had entered the cockpit.
I personally read that transcript. The man who entered
the cockpit (I do not remember his name but his name is known) demands
to land. The pilot says: “I can’t. It is impossible
to land.” To which the man from the presidential entourage
who entered the cockpit says: “I can’t report this
to the boss. Do all you can. Land.”
Listen,
everything is clear. What is there to speculate on? This is
a terrible tragedy. We have done our best to investigate it. This
should not be used to aggravate interstate relations – that is all.
Everything is clear. If there is something that is not clear, let investigative
agencies deal with that.
Now
regarding the weaknesses and strengths of Europe, what that
means and what our position is. No doubt, we want to have
a reliable, strong and – this is not unimportant – independent
partner. If, in dealing with matters related to building our
relations, the relations between Europe and Russia, we have to turn
to third countries or to a third country, then it is not
interesting for us to talk with Europe as such.
A recent
European politician said that all European countries are small states, but not
everyone has realised it yet. By the way, I disagree with that,
because there are great powers in Europe. I will not enumerate them
now for fear of failing to mention any. We treat them
accordingly. How Europe should build relations internally is none of our
business.
There are
two positions, and you know this better than I do: a Europe
of sovereignties, a Europe of independent states with
a small common superstructure or quasi-federative states. Today,
the number of binding decisions on EU member countries, decisions
passed by the European Parliament, is more than the number
of decisions passed by the USSR Supreme Soviet that were
mandatory for the Soviet republics. This is a fairly high degree
of centralisation. Whether or not it benefits Europe, I do not
know, it is for them to decide, not us.
The fact
that there are differences over migration or some other things, that too
is up to the Europeans to tackle. Of course, those European
countries that oppose the current migration policy are concerned over
the degree of their participation in decision making. They do
not like it when someone at the top imposes solutions they consider
unacceptable for themselves. It is not with us that such countries
as Poland or Hungary should discuss those issues, and they are
not doing that of course, they are discussing them with Brussels, with
European capitals.
But no
matter how relations inside Europe take shape, we are interested
in developing relations with Europe and we will strive to do
that. Naturally, we would like Europe to speak in one voice so that
it could be a partner that one could talk to – that is what really
matters to us. But if that is not the case, we will look
for opportunities to talk at the national level
of individual states, with each of our partners in Europe.
Although that is what actually happens now: we solve some issues with
the European Commission and others at the national level
with individual European countries. On the whole, it suits us.
The internal structure of Europe is not our problem.
Ilona
Linart: Good afternoon. Ilona Linart, Interstate Television and Radio
Company Mir. Thank you very much for your time.
Since Mir
is a channel of all CIS countries, the Eurasian Economic Union
is a very relevant issue for us. And here we find
a paradox: while being beneficial for some
of the participating countries, it is not beneficial for others.
For example,
Armenia has managed to increase its agricultural exports.
In Kyrgyzstan, the situation is the opposite, where
the majority of farmers have gone bankrupt. How would you comment
on this phenomenon?
And one
more additional question for you, back to Russia this time. You
probably remember the Khabarovsk animal snuff scandal that occurred
in autumn and shocked the whole country. In Russia, we have
a human rights ombudsman, an ombudsman for children's rights, and an ombudsman
for entrepreneurs’ rights. Perhaps we should start thinking about creating
the post of a commissioner for animal rights and draft
the legal framework? Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: About animal rights – it sounds nice indeed, but dog owners, any
pet owners – they do have rights. As for humanitarian issues
such as the humane treatment of animals, these fall into
a different regulatory domain, although it should certainly be improved.
You know,
there have been suggestions about toughening some of the legislation
and the general regulatory framework. I would support them,
given that everything is within reasonable limits, but regulation is certainly
necessary.
Now
the first part of your question. In my opinion, what we are
doing in terms of integration across these states should benefit all
the EAEU member countries. With Kyrgyzstan, that country has certain
difficulties primarily stemming from its relations with Kazakhstan
and Russia in the field of phytosanitary standards, that is
the problem. But in general, the sales of Kyrgyz goods
in Russia have increased. The same is happening with Belarusian
products in Russia, where retail volumes have increased greatly;
I will not cite specific industries now, but I have seen dramatic
growth, by very large percentages. Therefore, it is an extremely
important, necessary and useful process for all the countries
participating in this alliance.
In agriculture,
indeed, there is a problem with adhering to phytosanitary
requirements. There are yet unresolved issues on how this work is
organised in Kyrgyzstan. For our part, we are assisting our friends
in Kyrgyzstan in creating a modern system of phytosanitary
supervision.
We also
expect our Kazakh partners and friends to provide some help
and support to Kyrgyzstan, including financial, administrative
and professional support, so that Kyrgyzstan would set up a similar
health surveillance system, while we would avoid importing untested
or dangerous products. There is a debate going on, but there are
solutions to the problem, and moreover, this can be done fairly
quickly.
Dmitry
Peskov: Perhaps we could take a question from TV channel RT, which
the West accuses of every mortal sin? Russia Today.
Ilya
Petrenko: Thank you very much.
Good
afternoon, Mr President.
I would
like to ask about democracy in the context
of the recent election in the United States. American
politicians, perhaps more than any others, love to talk about democracy.
They say democracy is what makes the American people exceptional.
Sometimes they say that some countries lack democracy, and they then have
to share their democracy with these countries. But after this election,
these same people who proudly bore the banner of ‘American
democracy’, suddenly started saying that they have been betrayed after the result
of a democratic election in their own country.
What is
happening? What has gone wrong with democracy? In general, is democracy
a good thing?
If you
permit, I have one more brief question on an issue
of concern to me personally on the human level. As you
know, Oksana Sevastidi was recently sentenced to 7 years in prison
for state treason. Don’t you think this too harsh a punishment
for the SMS this woman wrote when she saw a train carrying
military equipment heading for Abkhazia?
Thank you.
Vladimir
Putin: Regarding the court decision, it is hard for me
to comment because the courts are an independent branch
of power here in Russia, as in all other civilised
countries. But I think this really is a rather harsh approach.
To be honest, I do not know the details. If she wrote something
in her SMS messages, if she just wrote what she saw and everyone else
could see it too, then we are hardly talking of any real secret here.
To be
honest, I am not familiar with this whole case, but I will try
to take a look at it and examine the claims
the court ultimately supported against her.
As for the subject
of democracy, yes, there are problems. This is something we have long been
saying, but our American partners always dismissed it. The problem lies
above all in the United States’ archaic electoral system.
The two-stage election (not through direct secret ballot) of first
the electors and then the electors electing the president.
And then it is organised in such a way that some
of the states retain preferences.
You would
have to ask the American lawmakers why the system is as it
is. Perhaps it was done deliberately so as to let people
in particular states keep hold of their privileges. This is
the American people’s own affair, however, and not our business.
But it is
very clear that the party which calls itself Democratic and will
remain in power until January 20, I think, has forgotten
the original meaning of its name. This is particularly so if you look
at the absolutely shameless way they used administrative resources
in their favour, and the calls to not accept
the voters’ decision and appeals to the electors.
As I already said, this is not a good thing. But I hope
that once the electoral passions have died down, America, which is
a great country, will draw the needed conclusions and keep them
in mind for future elections.
Mr Peskov,
let's switch to chess. What’s going on with chess? We should clear
the air a bit.
Denis
Polyakov: Thank you for an opportunity to ask a question.
My name is Denis Polyakov. I am from the Perm Region, city
of Kungur, Iskra newspaper.
In November,
all Russians cheered Sergei Karyakin who made a good showing
in the match for the world chess championship with Norway’s
Magnus Carlsen, the current world champion. In one of his
interviews after the match, Karyakin expressed the hope that there
will be the same kind of attention and support for chess
not only at major sporting events but day to day, that chess
for children and young people will be supported
and the White Rook tournament will get a boost.
I would
like to ask the following question. There is basically no support
for chess in our Kama Region, or Kungur for that matter. We
have a very good chess coach Alexander Letov but when he offers
to run chess clubs in schools, he is told there are other
extracurricular priorities: fine arts, dancing and the like.
And probably there are coaches like Letov in other places.
So
my question is: Mr President, how will we promote chess
in the foreseeable future? Will chess as an extracurricular
activity be given the green light? Thank you very much.
Vladimir
Putin: To begin with, I do not think I have the right
to interfere in the decisions of municipal and even
regional authorities on what should be added or removed from
the school programme. This is a very sensitive issue: do they need
chess or not during school hours or even after school? Such issues
should be resolved at the local level and they often fall within
the competence of schools themselves, not municipalities.
That said,
we should take pride in the Russian school of chess. We know all
about Russia’s outstanding chess players, such as Alekhine and our
current outstanding players. We are proud of our chess players
and our chess school. You know, we have established a special chess
section at the Sirius centre for gifted children in Sochi,
where chess classes are organised at the proper level. Naturally,
this is not enough. We must promote chess throughout the country.
I am hoping that the local government in Perm will also pay
attention to chess and will support the coach you mentioned
and all chess lovers.
As for Karyakin,
he really did a great job, excellent. Magnus is a very good,
outstanding chess grandmaster. Our player honourably represented Russia, our
chess school. He is a fighter and I am sure victories await him
in the future.
Nikolai
Dolgachev: Nikolai Dolgachev, the Kaliningrad TV company,
a branch of the VGTRK.
I am
also a member of the public council for the construction
of the bridge in Crimea. I would like to take up
a point made by my colleague who asked the question
and called it the Kerch Bridge. The fact is that we do not have an official
name yet. It is called Crimea Bridge. We have the Crimea Bridge
information centre. It is also called the Kerch Bridge, the Russian
Bridge and the Crimea Is Ours Bridge. There are a lot
of names. So here is my first question: Which of these names do
you prefer and what name would you propose?
And another
important point. The bridge will be built in the foreseeable
future, rather quickly. What will the next super-project be? Maybe
something in Kaliningrad?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Regarding the name of the bridge,
as I said, whatever people call it, that will be the name.
A poll, a referendum may even be held. What is important is that
there is a bridge. As to what it is called, this is important
but still only a secondary matter. If some name has caught on – say,
the Kerch Bridge – let it be that.
Kaliningrad has its own priorities to deal with. One is
the issue of energy independence, energy self-sufficiency. It is
a very important matter, related to building our relations with,
among others, the European Union. The European Union has taken
a decision that the Baltic countries should be part of their
integrated energy system. This creates problems for energy supplies
to Kaliningrad and requires additional financial resources from us
in order to build a new energy ring and include Kaliningrad
into that ring.
Frankly, I do not understand why this is being done, considering
that there are no problems with energy supplies to the Baltic
countries. Everything is working, and working well. Our European partners
keep telling us that we need to forge closer ties and search for areas
where we could draw closer together, but here, on the contrary,
without any apparent reason, they are disrupting relations – in this
case, in the highly sensitive and important energy sphere.
Nevertheless, we will resolve the problem of stable and independent
energy supply to Kaliningrad. As you know, there are plans
to deliver liquefied natural gas and build corresponding power
stations. The use of Russian-built small nuclear power plants is not
ruled out. This is a key issue with regard to Kaliningrad’s
development and the creation of a power base
for economic growth.
The second issue concerns road construction
and infrastructure more broadly. There are many problems there to be
addressed.
I have named two of them, and there are more.
The most important thing we should guarantee is full use
of the potential of Kaliningrad, which is the closest
of our cities to our European partners, lest it fall out
of the general economic context concerning the city’s economic
preferences – I mean its recent free zone status, now replaced with
support from the federal budget. All this should be synchronised so that
Kaliningrad develops on a natural basis without undermining
industrial production and the tackling of social issues.
For that matter, concerning Crimea. Energy supply is one
of its problems. I would like to inform you that
Chernomorneftegaz has finished work to link the Crimean gas pipeline
network with the Russian Federation’s gas mainlines. In two
or three days, we will announce that the job is complete and Russian
gas supplies to Crimea have begun.
This means that even now, with peak loads, especially in winter,
Crimea consumes 1,200–1,300 megawatts, of which 800 megawatts were
formerly supplied by Ukraine. Presently, Crimea produces approximately
1,000–1,100 megawatts. Together with mobile power plants we have supplied,
total output is slightly below 1,300 megawatts. After gas comes – and,
I repeat, it will come within the next two or three days, huge
amounts of Russian gas – the construction of two power
plants will begin in Crimea, each 470 megawatts. This means that total
production will approach 2,000 megawatts – 1,900–1,950, to be
precise. If peak consumption is 1,100–1,200 megawatts, we see that
approximately 800 megawatts will constitute a reserve for Crimea’s
economic development. It is a considerable amount
for the development of the economy, industry, agriculture,
recreation and tourism, that is, hotel construction, upgrading
infrastructure, and so on. This is a significant event
for Crimea. I hope we will make its people happy quite soon.
Dmitry Peskov: Caucasus
Today, go ahead, please.
Armine Ayrapetyan: Good
afternoon, Mr President. Armine Ayrapetyan from Caucasus Today, Pyatigorsk,
North-Caucasus Federal District.
Today, the global
community is fighting terrorism, and particularly the international
terrorist organisation whose members call themselves the “Islamic State.”
Sadly, many in Russia use this name, primarily in mass media; but we
all are aware that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam or with
statehood. Do you think it would be right and logical to prohibit
using the name “Islamic State,” at least in the mass media?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: What media
outlet do you represent, again?
Armine
Ayrapetyan: Caucasus Today.
Vladimir Putin: Caucasus
Today. Can you be prohibited from doing anything? I think this is
a blind alley. Although I think the words “Islam”
and “terror” really should not be used together unreasonably. You’re right
about this.
Armine
Ayrapetyan: Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Here’s
Yamal – let’s not neglect our northerners.
Liliya Gorokhova: Good
afternoon.
Liliya Gorokhova,
Sever-Press, Salekhard, Yamal.
Mr President, you have
repeatedly visited Yamal and launched many projects there. Let’s be
honest: Yamal is going to be a major driver of Russia’s economy
for a long time to come. We have many projects, but our region
is desperately lacking roads. There is a project that has long since been
prepared for constructing the Northern Latitudinal Railway,
and an agreement was signed with Russian Railways. Here’s
my question to you as to the best-informed person:
When do we start construction?
And another question,
if I may. Currently, work is underway to withdraw taxes paid
by donor regions in favour of less prosperous territories.
Of course, help is a good thing, we all understand this,
and dependency is bad. In your opinion, should this support be provided
on a permanent basis, or just temporarily?
Vladimir Putin: You have
just mentioned the necessity to implement the Northern
Latitudinal Railway project. Do you think you can do it on your own? No,
you can’t. This means you need help as well, right? That is why
the practice of “levelling incomes of different regions,”
implemented by the Finance Ministry, is the right one.
And if any of the regions receives surplus profit thanks
to the natural resources available in this region, we should
remember that these are national resources. All citizens of Russia,
regardless of the region they reside in, must have equal rights,
and this can be done only through adequate revenues
in the regional budgets. Currently, the redistribution
of incomes is necessary to boost development.
But you’re right
in saying that this shouldn’t lead to dependency. We should encourage
the regions to expand their own sources of profit. I won’t
go into much detail, there’s a lot to be said on that score. But
this has to be done – and again, we are making efforts
and will continue working on this.
As regards
the project that you have mentioned and the question that you
have asked – when this will be implemented: this will be implemented
as soon as it is recognised that this is economically expedient, when
it becomes clear that this project will generate profit.
On the whole, we are very close to implementing it. This is
a good and much-needed project for our country's economy
as it will diversify our transport system, ease the load on the Trans-Siberian
Railway and make it possible to load at a Yamal port which
is currently under construction, the Sabetta port. Many opportunities are
opening up.
The port is,
on the whole, already functioning. One of the largest
enterprises will be established there now. The project is effectively developing.
I mean Yamal LNG. It is probably one of the largest such
projects in the world today. It is amazing how NOVATEK with its
European and Chinese partners, and there are still more partners,
including the Japanese, has managed, under such conditions and within
such a short time, to push forward the implementation
of such a large-scale plan. I am happy for them
and hope that they will complete everything, despite all problems that
some are trying to cause them. Why? It is hard to understand.
I hope that common sense will prevail and those problems will
disappear. Yet, it is already clear to me now that the project will
be implemented.
As major industrial
projects take shape, the need for infrastructure support will
increase. I am convinced that we will get down to that too.
And frankly, the sooner, the better.
Let us hear from
the Middle East. This young man is so finely dressed it is impossible
to pass him over.
Question: Good
afternoon, esteemed Mr President. I am Khashavi Mukhammad from TV channel
Kurdistan 24.
I have
the following question. As you know, the Kurds have played
a big part in fighting international terrorism, and Russia today
plays a major and important role in the world, particularly
in the Middle East. What is Russia’s position regarding the fact
that the Kurds of Iraqi Kurdistan have already set out
on the road to independence?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Russia
has always had good special relations with the Kurdish people.
The Kurdish people have their very own complicated history. We see what is
happening now in the Middle East. I can note and confirm
that Kurdish combat units are fighting very courageously and effectively
against international terrorism.
As for the question
of sovereignty and independence of part of whichever
country, our position is that we will act within the framework
of international law and, ultimately, the Kurdish people will see
their rights guaranteed, but the form this takes and how it will be
done will depend on Iraq and on the Kurdish people itself.
We have been
and remain in contact with both Baghdad and Erbil, but we have
no intention of intervening in internal Iraqi affairs.
Tatyana Melikyan: Good
afternoon. I am Tatyana Melikyan, from Lenta.ru.
Thank you very much
for this opportunity.
We have already heard
the word ‘patriotism’ today. This word has been used very frequently this
year and is beginning to lose its meaning. I would like
to know: do you think the authorities are going a bit too far
in supporting patriotic movements? I say this because in autumn,
we had all this public debate over the forced closure of a photo
exhibition in Moscow and the forced decision not to stage
the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar in Omsk. It is dangerous when
concepts start to erode so that hooliganism can be called a patriotic
act or struggle for spirituality. I would like to know your
view: is it wise to divide hooligans into ‘ours’, because they are
patriots, and ‘not ours’?
One more thing, Mr
President. We heard about the teenagers arrested for torturing
animals in Khabarovsk, but this is just one small episode
in a huge and terrifying picture that is unfolding in our
country. You spoke about animal owners’ rights, but there are animals that do
not have owners and it is they that suffer from this sadism
and cruelty. Perhaps something could be done next year to bring order
to this area and look at how to remove these animals from
the city environment and how to organise shelters for them?
This is the main issue after all.
I have a big
request: toughen the penalties for cruelty to animals, because
this is the only way to stop this.
Vladimir Putin: This is
what I finished with. When I spoke about the rights of pet
owners, I said that, in general, we should proceed from
the principle of humanism with regard to animals, including
stray ones. Of course, we must address this in a civilised
manner, because we are aware of attacks by stray dogs, including
on children. The local authorities cannot pretend that this doesn’t
concern them. However, these issues need to be addressed in a civilised
manner. There are many of them, I will not talk about this now, but
they do exist.
With regard
to patriotism and whether the government will support it,
of course it will. We do not have, nor can there be, any other underlying
principle.
Should there be
a distinction between our hooligans and theirs? No. Hooligans are
hooligans. It’s important to distinguish between common sense,
and the scum that forms on the crest of this wave.
However, we shouldn’t feed on some information phobias either. This
exhibition, if no one proceeded to destroy it, was unlikely to draw
anyone’s attention whatsoever. On the other hand, the person
behind this exhibition – perhaps some of you are aware
of this – was prosecuted in the United States, but he
decided that he can do things in Russia that are not allowed
in the United States. The fact that the reaction was,
to put it mildly, far from civilised is probably a bad thing.
The authorities should take some decisions here, but the community,
too, must have some internal self-restraint, which we talked about recently
during a meeting of the Council for Culture in St
Petersburg.
Some cultural figures have
also asked me about banning the musical, Jesus Christ Superstar. One
shouldn’t feed on phobias or false information. This show didn’t make
it to the stage in Omsk, correct? However, one year before that,
it was a success in Omsk, with many people coming to see it.
Now, when they started selling tickets – they’ve been selling them for two
months and sold only 46 tickets – the organisers decided
of their own accord not to run this show. That's all there is
to it. No one prohibited anything.
Generally, it is impossible
to prohibit anything in the modern world. We are not going
to follow this path. Indeed, this is a very delicate area,
and we do need to maintain a constant dialogue with
the public. I fully agree with you.
Olga Pautova: Olga Pautova,
Channel One.
Mr President, there are
only three children's hospices in our country. Moscow’s first hospice has
been under construction for several years. Once it is completed,
terminally ill children will no longer have to stay in intensive
care, fighting the disease alone; they will not suffer from the pain
at home; they will stay at a place where their pain will be
relieved, where their mothers will always be with them, where they can play, go
outside, where they will be able to live, not just spend the rest
of their days. But the construction is progressing too slowly. We
often show it on our channel. The project is financed entirely with
charity money. This is not enough, and they frequently run out
of funds. But families with children who need palliative care do not have
time to wait. Maybe it is time for the Government
to intervene and help complete the construction? This is about
children after all.
Vladimir Putin: Maybe. But,
as you said, the project was initiated by philanthropists. This
is a very sensitive and delicate issue, you know. We always support
these initiatives. Recently I presented a state award to a priest
who has devoted his life to charity and is very active in it.
And the Government is working on it too. But if benefactors
start something, they should know how it ends. This is very important,
in any area. If you commit to something, “if you pledge, don't
hedge.” We do say that in Russia, right? And then do not look back
and turn to those who are not directly associated with
a particular project.
By and large,
of course, we need to pay more attention to this. I very
much hope that, after we talk to you and your colleagues, after you,
I mean Channel One, run the story, the city authorities will
hear you, just like in other Russian regions.
Vladimir Putin: I can see a poster saying, “Stop Juvenile Justice.” What
does this mean? Please.
Elina Zhgutova: Good
afternoon. I represent the Ivan Chai news agency.
Colleagues, Mr President,
on February 9, 2013 you attended a meeting of parents
in the Hall of Columns. You said there that juvenile justice
of the Western type would not be introduced in Russia without a broad
public discussion. I can tell you – I know this because
I also head a human rights centre – that we have a system
of juvenile justice that is almost as tough
as in Scandinavia.
An amendment was
adopted in July after you had requested that Article 116 be decriminalised.
However, this was done in a very strange manner, by introducing
a formula, “close relatives,” which is a form of discrimination
from the viewpoint of the Constitution. There is now a new
provision with regard to bodily blows made by “close relatives.”
Today, if a father slaps his child for misbehaving, which is
a traditional form of punishment in Russia, he can get
a two-year sentence, but if a neighbour does the same, he will
be fined.
When you attended our
meeting back then, we collected 180,000 signatures against the system
of juvenile justice. As of now, we have collected 213,000
signatures for stopping juvenile practices in Russia under which
children are taken from parents in poor families and the law can
intervene in family life without good reason. And all these people
ask you to meet with parents again. These parents are now standing behind
me and asking you for a meeting.
Vladimir Putin: Well,
I think we should not slap children and justify it based on some
old traditions. Neither parents, nor neighbours should do this, although this
sometimes happens. There is a short distance from slaps to beating.
Children fully depend on adults; they are the most dependent members
of society. There are many other ways to bring children up without
slapping.
On the other
hand, we should be reasonable too, because actions such as you describe
destroy families. Like you, I am against such distorted forms
of juvenile justice. Frankly speaking, I believed that
my instruction had been fulfilled. The State Duma Speaker has updated
me on this only recently, and he said that the related
amendments had been approved. Let us discuss this issue once again.
I promise to look at this matter and to analyse
the situation. Unceremonious interference in family matters is unacceptable.
As for what happens in the family, let us talk about this
later. (Applause.)
Dmitry Peskov:
A question from Alexander Gamov, Komsomolskaya Pravda.
Alexander Gamov:
Komsomolskaya Pravda radio station, kp.ru website,
and the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper.
I have a somewhat
pointed question, and so I hope your answer will be frank,
as always. Mr President, you appoint people from your closest circle
as regional governors. I made a point of meeting some
of them. Komsomolskaya Pravda ran interviews with Lieutenant-General
Alexei Dyumin, Hero of Russia, and Dmitry Mironov, acting [governor].
Alexei Dyumin is now Tula Region governor, and Dmitry Mironov is Acting
Governor of the Yaroslavl Region.
I had
the impression that you are carrying on a tradition you
established about eight years ago, I think, when you appointed
a stranger as the head of Ingushetia. It was Yunus-Bek
Yevkurov, also a Major-General and Hero of Russia. As far
as I know, he has warranted the President’s confidence.
I have also met the youngest governor, Acting Governor
of the Kaliningrad Region Anton Alikhanov. He is 30 years old.
And I wonder: do you make such appointments on purpose? Will
this presidential tactic and practice survive in future gubernatorial
appointments? And why did it appear? Are you wary of the local
gubernatorial staff, in connection with the notorious arrests?
Last but not least –
my colleagues won’t let me tell a lie – media outlets, including
my Komsomolskaya Pravda, are discussing whether Mr Putin is training Dyumin
and Mironov. Is that so? What are you training them for, Mr President?
For some distant goals? And what are your goals?
Thank you very much.
Vladimir Putin: My goal is the wellbeing of Russia. How can we reach this? We
should tackle the economy and the social sphere,
and provide the defence potential and security. Proper people
are needed to do that.
How many constituent
entities are there in the Russian Federation? Eighty five.
And how many people did you mention now? Three. Were they, or are
they, all that prominent within the entire gubernatorial body? I mean
the people elected at the President’s bidding in certain
Federation entities. Let’s see what is going on there. Here is
the answer to the question of whether we trust
the so-called local personnel. We do trust them, of course.
An overwhelming majority of the Russian Federation regions are
governed by people from those regions, an absolute majority. But
there are occasions when the elite needs new blood. That is evident.
To that matter, the regions’ population demand a certain
replacement of the regional elites.
You mentioned two
or three names, but even the latest changes concerned more people.
What about Gaplikov, appointed to Komi? And what about the Kirov
Region appointment? They are all young enough, and efficient.
And what about the new head of Sevastopol? They are all
energetic, young and, to my mind, promising leaders, who have shown
good results. So selections are made according to personal and career
qualities, which give grounds to expect that these people will cope with
their duties. I very much count on this.
As for their
prospects, it depends on them and on the public’s opinion
of their work. Mr Dyumin had worked for six months, I think,
in the Tula Region before 85 percent voted for him. That was
a good achievement, but it is not enough. Now he should prove his worth
in practical work. The same concerns my other colleagues,
starting with Sevastopol, the Kirov Region or Yaroslavl.
I talked recently with
a legendary person, [the first woman cosmonaut Valentina] Tereshkova.
She said: “How wonderful it was! Thank you very much for finding such
a man for our Yaroslavl.” Such are the first indications
of the right man for the problems he will address. Thank
God! I wish them every success in their work, for the good
of the people of these regions.
Sebastian
Rauball (retranslated): I will ask my question
in German.
Thank you very much
for the chance to put a question. How do you see 2017
in terms of relations with the West, looking
at the possibility of a new start in Russia’s
relations with the USA? Now, following the terrorist attack
in Berlin, do you think it is perhaps worth looking at improving
relations?
I have a second
question. Yevgeny Dzhugashvili, Stalin’s grandson, who was fighting for Stalin’s
rehabilitation, died yesterday. In an interview, film director Kirill
Serebrennikov said that he fears Stalin’s rehabilitation. What is your view
on this issue? Is it possible for Josef Stalin’s descendants
to somehow get him rehabilitated?
Vladimir Putin: Regarding developing relations between Russia and Europe,
I already answered your Polish colleague on this subject. It was not
we who initiated the worsening in relations with Europe, including
with Germany. We did not impose any sanctions on European countries,
including Germany, none at all. All we did was to take measures
in response to the restrictions imposed on our economy. We
would be happy to lift these measures if our partners, including
in Europe, lift the anti-Russian sanctions, even though our farmers
are asking us not to do this.
What happened after all?
Let’s take an objective look at the events that brought us
to such a situation. Our American and European friends initially
acted as guarantors for the agreement reached between President
Yanukovych and the opposition, but the next day,
the agreements were broken and power was seized. Instead
of condemning an anti-constitutional coup and calling
for execution of the agreement to which the foreign
ministers of three European countries – France, Germany
and Poland – had put their signatures, they supported this
anti-constitutional coup.
This resulted
in the people living in Crimea wanting to reunite with
Russia, Ukraine losing Crimea, and the sad, tragic and bloody
events in Donbass.
But what was
at the start of all of these developments? It’s amazing
to think, but at the start of this whole tragedy was
the failure to reach agreements on Ukraine’s accession to,
of all things, an association agreement with the European Union.
How could issues of a purely economic nature end up taking
on such a new dimension and lead to such tragedies?
Were we the ones who
initiated this chain of events? No, of course not. We spent years
asking to have this agreement’s main parameters settled with us. Mr Yanukovych
said too in the end that, “I want to join this agreement,
but I need to reflect on the accession terms
and settle them within our own government and consult with Russia,
because we have very close economic ties with Russia and we need
the Russian market. We have a high level of cooperation.” But
our European partners said no. How can one act that way? We therefore do not
consider ourselves to blame for what happened. We did not start this
chain of events.
By the way, what
happened then and what is happening now? After the coup was staged
under the guise of joining the Association Agreement,
the association was postponed. Immediately. So, they did exactly what
Yanukovych proposed to do. They dragged it out for a year
or even more, then wrote that they made a decision
on ratification and postponed the association once again.
And what is going on now? A referendum was held
in the Netherlands, and Europe does not want to implement
it any more. I really don’t even know what to make of this.
Now we are talking about
visa-free travel for Ukrainian citizens. But it is on hold,
and if it proceeds, it will be implemented in the truncated form
and, obviously, will put labour migrants coming from Ukraine to Europe
in a completely embarrassing position. Wouldn't it be better if they
could work together, calmly and without any fuss, and reach
an agreement on how to collaborate?
What kind of relations
do we seek to build with Europe? We aim to resolve common problems,
one of which is certainly the fight against terrorism.
We express our condolences
to the families of those killed in Berlin and wish
a speedy recovery to all those injured. But I have repeatedly
said, including in my speech at the UN 70th anniversary
session, that this problem can be settled effectively only though joint
efforts. But how can we join our efforts with anti-Russian sanctions
and reciprocal measures imposed and all forms of cooperation
scaled down? What can be done if, for instance, our British colleagues
have completely curtailed relations with Russia’s Federal Security Service? So,
can we talk about efficient work on the anti-terrorist track?
Absolutely not. So, as a result, we take hits, heavy
and painful.
I really hope that our
cooperation will be restored.
Dmitry Peskov: Mr
President, may we give the floor to Andrei Kolesnikov from
Kommersant? He would also like to ask a question.
Vladimir Putin: Yes.
He is also from the pool.
Andrei Kolesnikov: Andrei
Kolesnikov, Kommersant.
Mr President, how would you
respond to this question: why should you necessarily become
the President of Russia again in 2018? And what would be
your response to this question: why should you not, under any
circumstances, become the President of Russia?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: He is some
kind of provocateur.
Andrei Kolesnikov:
As usual.
Vladimir Putin: He does
this all the time.
This is an exercise
in futility. My response will be standard. When the time comes
I will see what is going on in Russia
and in the world. Based on what we have done, what we can
do and how we can do it, a decision will be made regarding
my participation or nonparticipation in the presidential
election in the Russian Federation.
Veronika Kilina: Good
afternoon.
Veronika Kilina,
Nakanune.ru.
Mr President, you must be
aware of the controversial situation around the Yeltsin Centre
in Yekaterinburg. What is your position on the discussion that
was started by the well-known film director Nikita Mikhalkov? May
I remind you that he criticised the Yeltsin Centre for the exoneration
of Vlasovites and the distortion of history. Do you agree
that this must not be permitted? And what would you say
to the people who are indignant about the fact that all
of this is being paid for with money from the state budget?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: You know,
I have met with Mr Mikhalkov, Valentin Yumashev and Tatyana
Dyachenko, and we discussed the issue. Perhaps there are matters that
require, let us say, careful consideration. They are related primarily
to the way information about the history of Russia is
presented; not only its recent history, from the beginning
of perestroika to the present, but history as a whole,
in the broad sense of the word. My colleagues agreed
with me that there is probably a need to put certain things into
focus.
But in general, do you
know what I object to? I am against endlessly blowing up these
issues. There is nothing wrong with the fact that this discussion is
unfolding. This is perfectly normal. Some people take a positive view,
some take a more liberal position on the ongoing events and prospects
for development, while others are more conservative, more traditionalist.
We have always had our national loyalists and Westernists. Some people
consider themselves to be national loyalists. However, as we recall
the events of 1917, as we are to observe
the centennial of the revolutionary events next year,
in 2017, we should move toward reconciliation, rapprochement, not toward
division, not toward inflaming passions. This is what I would say
in response to your question.
Maxim Rumyantsev: Maxim Rumyantsev,
Free Journalism Centre, Yekaterinburg.
Mr Putin, I will
follow up on the subject of environmental protection.
Rosatom is building
strategic facilities under a federal targeted programme. Today ISIS-like
environmental cells are operating in Russia but they are staging
industrial terror against the background of the fight against
the issue of ecology. These people have nothing to do with
environmental protection, and some groups have been identified as foreign
agents.
I would like
to know how you filter the appeals that are continuously being sent
to the Presidential Executive Office.
This industrial blackmail
is interfering both with Rosatom and other industrial enterprises.
In our Ural Federal District this system of manipulation has replaced
public and political opinion: I am referring
to the Tominsky ore mining and dressing plant. In other
words, foreign agents and these NGOs, including environmentalists, have
been sent to an advanced enterprise that is to be built
in Chelyabinsk Region.
And my last
point: I would simply like to make a request on behalf
of the residents of the village of Serebryanka that
was completely isolated from the rest of the world last year.
I saw elderly people buying groceries on credit. Their money is
in Tagil, which is 70 km away from their village, and they have no
way of getting there. The authorities promised to build
a road in 2018, but how are they supposed to live until this
happens, especially in the muddy season in autumn
or spring?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: As for your
last remark, I will certainly draw the Governor’s attention
to this and I hope he will respond, in cooperation with
the local authorities.
Needless to say, this
is absolutely inadmissible. Regrettably, such things happen
in the country and they are not so rare. It is a great pity
that the local authorities, including regional leaders, are neglecting
such problems. People should not feel isolated from the life
of the country, no matter where they live, and must certainly
have access at least to the elementary blessings
of civilization.
Now about environmental
groups, and how we separate those who are sincerely striving
to preserve our nature from those who want to make money on it.
You know, this is not even
about foreign agents, although environmental groups are sometimes used
by our competitors to slow down a growing segment
or a Russian infrastructure project, as in your case,
and so on.
I remember very well
how foreign governments “charged” some environmental groups during
the construction of some marine or port infrastructure
facilities. We knew for certain how much money was spent
on disrupting various projects that are now in operation, thank God.
However, this does not mean that we should neglect environmental issues. This
applies to Rosatom, possibly above all.
However, Rosatom is one
of the world’s leading companies, and its modern, post-Fukushima
technology is recognised by the IAEA and international experts
as the safest in the world. This is an absolutely
obvious fact. We have taken into account all disasters in the Soviet
Union and the rest of the world in this area. We have
developed truly safe technologies, but nobody is immune to the abuse
of environmental issues.
I remember very well
a conversation with one of my foreign friends. An old buddy
of his, who worked in an international environmental group, told
him: “Pay us 30 million dollars or euros. You’d better give it
of your own free will, and everything will be okay. You’re better off
agreeing.” They held a meeting of the board of directors
and decided to pay and paid. We know such things happen,
and bear it in mind. How do you respond to this? Certainly, not
by brushing it aside. Regrettably, this cannot be ignored. There is only
one response: a comprehensive professional study of the matter
in terms of its economic feasibility and environmental safety.
Ekaterina Vinokurova: Mr
Putin, I realise that I looked a little ridiculous, but
in addition to a question, I have a request that is
a matter of life and death for some people. I hope this
will excuse me.
My name is Ekaterina
Vinokurova, Znak.com.
I will begin with
a question. Mr Putin, I always watch your speeches,
and I listened carefully to the Address as well. You
say good things that are impossible to disagree with. However,
the next day everything starts going in exactly the opposite
direction.
Vladimir Putin: Everything?
That's impossible. To say that everything goes either right or wrong
is a very radical approach.
Ekaterina Vinokurova:
I will provide examples.
Vladimir Putin: Do please.
Ekaterina Vinokurova:
For example, our good comrades nodded their heads when you said
in your Address that responding aggressively is inadmissible
and the wrongdoers must be punished. Here in St Petersburg,
a colleague of mine, a photographer from Kommersant, David
Frenkel, was beaten up by someone from NOD.
Vladimir Putin: From where?
Ekaterina Vinokurova: NOD:
the National Liberation Movement led by Evgeny Fyodorov, which acts
under openly aggressive slogans calling for cleansing the government,
and so on.
Or, for example,
the Sorok Sorokov movement, who claim to be Orthodox Christians, but,
in fact, preach views that make other people turn away from
the Orthodox Church. They were very aggressive in defending
the construction of a church that was opposed
by the locals, also believers, by the way. They insulted
the people to the point where the locals began
to respond, and then they wrote a complaint about offence
of the feelings of believers. All of that despite your
repeated statements about the consolidation of our society
and that the ties that bind our society have to do with
reconciliation rather than aggression.
Or, for example, you
mentioned in the Address that we are sensitive to injustice,
lies and self-serving interests. For instance, we see that
the great Igor Sechin … Vedomostifound out that he is about
to build a house in Barvikha, and Igor Sechin, instead
of building a more modest house, because he is an employee
of a state-owned corporation in a poor country,
sues Vedomosti and demands that the entire circulation be
destroyed.
Another example (I am
nearly finished). During a news conference several years ago, you said
that you were in favour of electing mayors. Mr Putin, are you aware
that mayoral elections in major cities were canceled 18 months later?
The question is simple: Mr Putin, your elite is openly challenging you.
They nod approvingly to everything you say, tell you how great
and wonderful you are – and everyone …
Vladimir Putin: Stop, stop
right there. (Laughter)
Ekaterina Vinokurova: This
is a simple and straightforward question, Mr Putin. Why is it that
you say one thing, but in practice we see, too often, something different?
Is this some kind of creeping coup?
Secondly, my request.
Mr Putin, RBC reporter Alexander Sokolov has been kept in a pre-trial
detention centre for more than 18 months now. The charge that we hear
in court is delusional and makes no sense whatsoever. We do not see
any fairness on behalf of the security officers, judges, nor do
we have any hopes for justice.
There’s another case
of a woman named Evgeniya Chudnovets, who posted on VKontakte
[social network] a video showing a boy being bullied and asked
the police to do something about it. She was put behind bars for that
and was sentenced to real time in prison. Mr Putin, please, we
have to do something about the sadistic skew of our justice.
Please, we must save these people. Thank you very much.
Vladimir Putin: About
the prosecution bias in justice in Russia. You know, we have
recently taken a lot of decisions aimed at humanising our
legislation. This applies to criminal law, to administrative
offenses, and additional measures are being taken now. These are
fundamental things that we are doing consciously, and we will continue this
work.
As for someone
expressing extreme views or acting radically – Russia is a large
and complicated country, you know. Some would radically defend liberal
values and organise provocative
exhibitions, and they
say they are doing it deliberately to draw attention to their actions, to their art. Here, too, there
must be moderation, right? There must be moderation in all things.
The same can be said about the so-called patriots. I said we
would support patriotic movements, assuming there is no distortion. The balance
of things should be determined within society.
As for the specific
persons you mentioned, I have to be honest, I have never even
heard of them. I will look it up, I promise, I have no idea
if their verdicts were fair or not.
About the construction
projects implemented by business representatives, including those from
state-owned companies, the extravagant-looking real estate –
I agree with you, they need to be more modest, you are right.
I told them so many times and I hope they will hear me. This
also concerns their bonuses, their incomes. Even if the law allows it,
they need to understand the country we live in, and try not
to annoy people.
As for the various
claims you mentioned, after all, it is up to the court to decide
if it is a fair claim or not. If an individual goes
to court seeking protection of their business reputation, honour
and dignity, the court shall determine the degree of guilt
or lack thereof. As far as I know about the case,
Sechin claimed several billion or something like that from RBC.
The court agreed that he was right, but the amount was 360,000, truly
insignificant. Nothing terrible actually happened. But I must say that
people often come to me, I mean, prominent figures in culture
and the arts, people with very different views, by the way,
and complain about journalistic terror against them – yes,
of persecution, seizure, of their children being terrorised.
I would like
to ask you and your colleagues, please, please be more discreet, do
not interfere in the personal, private lives of public figures,
artists, athletes and other such people. We all need certain rules
developed, and we need to adhere to these rules
on the basis of a sufficiently high cultural level
in our country.
Wait a second; we have
CCTV here.
Question: Good
afternoon Mr President.
I would like
to develop the subject my colleague from Rossiya-24 started.
The global situation is becoming more complicated. There are refugees
and terrorist attacks in Europe, the Middle East remains
unstable, and now the USA has a new president. In this
situation, what new approaches should major powers such as Russia
and China find to resolve global and regional problems,
and how will this influence our relations? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: It is
common knowledge that Russia and China have very close relations. We are
all familiar with the term ‘strategic partnership’, but the ties that
Russia and China have developed over recent years are more than
a simple strategic partnership. China is our biggest trade
and economic partner as far as individual countries go. Yes, our
trade turnover has fallen a little due to objective circumstances
(above all, the drop in energy prices), but we are diversifying our
relations and I am especially pleased to see that our trade in the high-tech
sectors and in industrial production has grown significantly
of late.
We have big projects
in aircraft manufacturing, and good prospects in the space
sector, and in energy, including nuclear energy. We have some good
undertakings in infrastructural projects, and I hope they will all
go ahead. We are developing [cooperation] and will continue to do so,
despite the difficulties that exist – I will not go into
the details now – in the transition to settling our
trade and economic accounts in our national currencies, all
the more so now that the yuan has become one
of the International Monetary Fund’s reserve currencies,
an event on which I congratulate our Chinese colleagues. We have
common views on many issues on the international agenda,
and I am certain that this will be a major stabilising factor
in international affairs. We value our ties with China and hope
to continue developing them.
Dmitry Peskov: RBK was
mentioned today. Perhaps we should give RBK the chance to put
a question? Please, give them the microphone.
Natalia Galimova: Mr
President, I am Natalia Galimova, RBK.
Let me begin with
the question I meant to ask last, but since my colleague
raised the issue of the arrested RBK journalist… You said it was
the first time you had heard Alexander Sokolov’s name.
Vladimir Putin: What
did he do? What was he arrested for?
Natalia
Galimova: A year ago, in this hall, you promised to look
into his case. He is accused of extremism, but nothing has happened since
then, and now he is being tried. Perhaps you were very busy and did
not have time, but I do nonetheless ask you to please look into this
case.
Vladimir Putin: I apologise for interrupting, but after the issue
was raised publicly this way, it was probably the Presidential Executive
Office that looked into the situation, and if the case went
to court, it suggests the circumstances are not all so
straightforward. But I will look into it again.
Natalya
Galimova: Thank you.
And another question.
You have just spoken of the responsibility of the media
in the context of lawsuits. On the one hand, yes, but
there is another side to the matter. Igor Sechin is actively suing
the media: Novaya Gazeta, Vedomosti, RBC, Forbes magazine.
The outcome of the court cases has always been the same.
Igor Sechin wins lawsuits, while courts, with very rare exceptions, order that
the articles that are the objects of his discontent be removed
from websites or, with regard to Vedomosti, for example, that its
entire circulation be destroyed. Do you believe that such rulings set a dangerous
precedent, legitimising the suppression of information that may not
be to someone’s liking?
Vladimir Putin: Do you have
a problem with Sechin, the courts or the unreliability
of your own information? You know, all of this requires careful
consideration. Sechin, as well as other people who go
to court – what are they supposed to do to defend their
honour, dignity and business reputation? Are they supposed to come
and fight you with a stick or what? They go to court, just
as in any civilised society. How objective these rulings are,
frankly, I do not know. He sued RBC for 3 billion, but the court
ordered RBC to pay him 300,000. This 300,000 is a paltry amount
for RBC. I do not think that it will seriously affect
the holding’s financial and economic operation. However, to look
at this from a somewhat unexpected angle, generally it is good that
the press keeps bureaucrats and representatives of big business,
including companies with state participation, on their toes. However, this
should be done only within the bounds of the law.
Natalya Galimova: But
what about the decision to destroy publications?
Vladimir Putin: Frankly,
I cannot pass judgment. If this decision is based on law, is within
the bounds of law, well, then it should be carried out.
Natalya Galimova: May
I ask an important question about taxes?
Vladimir Putin: About
taxes, please.
Natalya
Galimova: In your Address, you issued instructions
to the Government to draft proposals on adjusting
the tax system after 2018. How do you envision the tax system after
2018? And what will be your response to decisions or proposals
to raise taxes on businesses or individuals?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: You know,
in 2014 we resolved not to raise taxes on businesses. This is
precisely what is happening. Despite the numerous proposals from different
agencies to make an exception, we refrained from increasing
the tax burden on businesses. In addition, we not only avoided
increasing the tax burden, but also introduced an array
of preferential tax regimes, say, for small and medium-sized
businesses.
Now we are considering
the possibility of exempting self-employed individuals from all
payments for a certain period so that they can become legal, set up
their business and see that it runs smoothly. These are important, significant
steps.
We are also considering
priority development areas and other tax regimes. We are talking about
a special tax procedure in agriculture, where there are two
possibilities of reducing tax payments – importantly, reducing them
legally. We are talking about reducing deductions to social funds
for high-tech businesses, including small ones, which,
at the end of the day, is key to growth
in the IT sector of the Russian economy. We have addressed
all of that, and I believe to good effect.
Indeed, in 2018, all
of this will come to an end. And today all together we
should develop a plan for our work in this area
for the next four years, calmly and efficiently, with
the involvement of the Government and the expert
and business communities, and, I hope, with the participation
of RBC, since RBC specialises in analysing what is going
on in business (sometimes I watch your programmes; you have very
good experts). After a discussion and a final decision, we will
ensure a favourable business environment for at least
the next four years.
Dmitry Peskov: Mr Putin,
I saw a poster saying “Irkutsk. Alcohol” next
to the cameras in the back of the auditorium. It
is probably about the recent tragic events.
Please go ahead.
Dmitry
Lyustritsky: Good afternoon, Oblastnaya newspaper, Irkutsk Region.
Indeed, Irkutsk has
suddenly and sadly appeared in the top news story this week.
I have two questions for you in this regard.
Currently, Irkutsk Region
is in the vanguard of the fight against illegal trafficking
in alcohol, or rather, non-drinkable alcohol-containing liquids.
Yesterday, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Khloponin put forth an action
plan, which the Government is going to implement in its effort
to combat this scourge. It is comforting to know that there is overall
understanding that this is not only about Irkutsk Region, but is a major
widespread problem, at least in Siberia and the Russian Far
East. There is a proposal to introduce excise duty on industrial
alcohol.
This is what it is all
about. This is not only about illegal trade, the lack of excise
duties on industrial alcohol or the absence of technical
monitoring. There is also the enormous problem of alcohol abuse,
by the population in general, because not all
of the casualties come from the lower strata. There are many
poor people who cannot afford store-bought vodka, so they turn
to bootleggers and illegal producers.
In this regard,
I would like to ask you, first, what do you think about
the measures proposed by the Government with regard
to the sale of industrial alcohol and the prevention
of such tragedies in the future? Are there any planned measures
to reduce alcohol consumption in our country and fight
alcoholism as a social scourge?
Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: First
of all, I must say that what is happening in Irkutsk is
a terrible tragedy – I have no words for it –
and a terrible mess, because supervisory bodies and other bodies
that were supposed to be on top of the situation failed
to prevent this tragedy.
Now, with regard
to what really happened there. Several individuals, some of them
citizens of a foreign state, organised the production
of liquids for cleaning bathtubs and used alcohol in their
production, which is not a poison. However, one of the group
decided to make some extra cash and, the way I see it, not
really knowing what he was doing, got hold (I will not use a bad word
here) of industrial alcohol and used it.
Increasing excise duties
and other measures proposed by the Government are
a correct, but, unfortunately, belated response. It had to be done
earlier.
As for the claims
by the so-called – so-called in this particular case –
small businesses that prices of perfumery products and all sorts
of detergents will go up, we have to acknowledge that after such
tragedies, such claims are not enough reason for us not to proceed
with excise duty hikes. You may be aware that a few days ago,
I issued additional instructions to the Government, and we
are seeing the reaction now. I hope that all of this taken
together will give us the desired result and will help preserve
the lives and health of our citizens.
Now about alcohol abuse.
Yes, indeed, it is a problem. However, oddly enough, it may not be
as bad as in some other countries, particularly, Northern
Europe.
What we need is
a package of measures that must be implemented – and they
are being implemented. These measures may not be prohibitive, although some
restrictions may apply. There is a poster here that says, “Are there booze
joints around the Kremlin?” I am not sure about the Kremlin, but
there must be no such spots near schools or childcare centres. Such
decisions have been taken, and it is important that they are implemented
in full.
We must continue
to pursue intensive and multifaceted efforts to prevent mass
alcohol consumption. This includes educational, morale building
and related efforts by the media as well – please
support us in this endeavour.
This is a critical
area of our work, and our demographics depend
to a significant extent on it. Generally, this is one
of the key areas of our joint work.
Remark: May I ask a question
about love?
Vladimir Putin: Love? We
need to finish already.
Dmitry Peskov: It has been
over three and a half hours.
Vladimir Putin:
And love will quickly turn to hate if we stay here too long.
Georgia. The young
woman who raised a poster.
The kvas question is
no less interesting, of course – they raised a poster there.
(Laughs.)
Dmitry Peskov: That is last
year's story.
Vladimir Putin: But we will
get back to that.
Go ahead, please.
Tamara Gotsiridze: Tamara
Gotsiridze, Maestro TV.
Cultural and economic
relations have resumed recently, but in general, we have stopped
progressing. We all know the reasons for that, too: territorial
issues between us remain. Do you believe there are prospects for political
dialogue, or will we maintain the current status quo
for a long time?
One more thing, if
possible. You commented on the visa-free entry to the EU
for Ukrainian citizens. The same travel regulations will apply
to Georgia. Would you say that your comment on Ukraine also applies
to Georgia, because Europe will open visa-free entry
for the citizens of Georgia sooner than Russia? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: Your
phrasing at the end was tricky, you know. I actually said that
visas in Europe are an anachronism. Whether we are talking about
Ukraine or Georgia, I believe that everyone should travel visa-free.
As for Russia
and Georgia, travel restrictions were introduced for a reason,
not for the fun of it, after the conflict. I would
like to note, though it might seem trivial, that we are not the ones
to blame. We did not start the fighting in South Ossetia. But
anyway, we all need to think about normalising relations,
and I do not rule out returning to a visa-free regime
for Georgian citizens in Russia. It seems to me that there is
good reason for that, as we now see certain signals from individual
authorities in Georgia.
It is important
to establish normal relations between special services and law
enforcement agencies to ensure joint efforts in the fight
against terrorism, so that visa-free travel does not damage our security
on the antiterrorism track. I think this is quite possible.
Anyway, let us talk about
kvass. What is the situation? Last time or the time before, we
already discussed kvass. Let us continue. No to vodka, yes to kvass.
Vladimir Mamatov: Thank you
very much, Mr Putin. Vladimir Mamatov from Kirov, that is, Vyatka.
Special thanks to you
for kvass, because it is exported to China and the United
States.
Vladimir Putin: It is
an unlimited market.
Vladimir
Mamatov: Nothing would have happened without your support. Whenever you
come to our plant, I guarantee you will see a crowd there.
The problem is
different. The new Governor (Gamov spoke about the governors who are
your people), Igor Vasilyev, wants to establish a venue
for Kirov goods, because if I come to you with every Vyatka
brand, we will have news conferences for the next 300 years. We have
many brands to take pride in.
Vladimir Putin: You think
we will live that long?
Vladimir Mamatov: I am
an optimist, I am always an optimist.
Vladimir Putin: Fine.
Vladimir Mamatov: Mr
Putin, we have many things to be proud of there. He wants
to establish a venue for Kirov brands. It takes an hour
by plane to get from Moscow to Kirov, or a night
by train, like from Kirov to St Petersburg.
Vladimir Putin: But
what do you want from me?
Vladimir Mamatov: Just
a moment (Laughter in the hall). I apologise
for taking up people’s time.
We actually want
to restore the VDNKh (Exhibition of National Economic
Achievements). Make Kirov Region a pilot venue with our local producers
presenting local goods there. Then we could modestly ask whether
the President can support this. And whether we can do this
on a national scale? There is the “Made in Russia” office.
It essentially represents a virtual VDNKh on the internet.
Vladimir Putin: Are you
referring to the VDNKh in Moscow?
Vladimir Mamatov: Absolutely.
Vladimir Putin: Yes,
this is what is happening there now. If you visit it, you will see that VDNKh
is coming back to life again, thank God. Just recently it only had some
shabby markets that emerged out of nowhere. So, if you have an idea
regarding the presentation of your goods, I believe this can be
resolved. Sergei Sobyanin is sure to hear us. We are ready to prompt
him, so he could discuss the presentation of your goods with his
colleague.
One
of the economic development areas is this work
in the market, in new markets and in restored old
ones.
Vladimir Mamatov: May
I refer to your support?
Vladimir Putin: Yes,
of course.
Vladimir Mamatov: Wonderful! When do you expect to visit us?
Vladimir Putin: Thank
you very much. I will try.
Vladimir Mamatov: Thank you
so much.
Vladimir Putin: We
need to wrap up, otherwise we will never finish. Let us take a few
more questions.
Alexey
Yeryomenko: Thank you. I will be brief, without any introductions.
When do you expect
to meet with Donald Trump? What strategic issues will be
on the agenda at the first and the following
meetings? What do you expect? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: It is
difficult to say now. First of all, the newly elected US
President needs the opportunity to put his team together. Without
this, I believe, unprepared meetings are quite meaningless.
What issues will be
on the agenda? Issues that concern putting our relations back
on track. During his election campaign, Mr Trump said that he considered
it appropriate to normalise Russian-American relations. He also said that
the situation would not be worse, as it cannot get any worse.
I agree with him. So, together we will think about how to make things
better.
Such an impressive
poster: “Give me.” Give you what? What do you need?
Vladimir Gusev: Good
afternoon.
Vladimir Putin: Hello.
Vladimir
Gusev: My name is Vladimir Gusev, and I represent Bloknot
federal information agency.
Mr President, what do you
consider your worst mistake of this year, and what would you say is
your worst mistake of all of your presidential terms? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: You
know, I have been repeatedly asked similar questions and even exactly
the same question by your colleagues.
Every person makes
mistakes. No person can live or work without making mistakes. I am
not going to repeat what has already been said many times, but I will
try to learn from all my mistakes and flaws so
as to make fewer mistakes in the future
and to work more efficiently, all together and personally.
Alexei Khodorych: Mr
President, I am Alexei Khodorych, chief editor of Klassny Zhurnal.
In your Address
to the Federal Assembly, you talked about the need
to cultivate moral values in young people, which is impossible
without reading. Today's children spend time watching videos
on the Internet and playing videogames. Meanwhile children's
magazines are the perfect tools for fostering the habit
of regular reading. However, they are disappearing from libraries. We have
talked with librarians, and they say their funding is shrinking
and they cannot subscribe to the magazines they would like
to have.
So my first question
is: could the Government somehow help return children's magazines
to their rightful place in the libraries?
The second question
was sent to us by a young reader who loves robots –
Alexander Aksenenko, 8, from Moscow. What kind of robot do you absolutely
need in the Kremlin? Thank you.
Vladimir Putin: You know,
robots are good in production, in industry. When we deal with such
sensitive issues, when the fate of millions of people depends
on our decisions, we absolutely have to be human. It would be
difficult to use a robot, to count on it.
As for libraries
in general, especially with children's books, I fully agree with you.
We are trying to revive libraries in general, but on a new
basis, because it is extremely enjoyable to simply come
in and flip through a book; it is very important to hold
a book, to feel it, even to look at illustrations,
to see the text in front of your eyes. Modern media are
obviously replacing conventional books. But we need to ensure that modern
media offer the desired content, which would be in demand
in educating the younger generation, something that leaves an imprint
on children’s souls and helps in forming their views
and attitude to life. We need to transform libraries into new
multimedia centres offering both books and the Internet.
Just as with many
other sensitive issues, we need to pay more attention here. Not only
at the federal level, but above all, it is primarily
the regions’ and municipalities’ responsibility. If you need more
federal help, we could think about it too, we only need to decide what
kind of help. Simply transferring the money is not always the most
effective form of support. But it is essential that we do it.
Margarita
Papchenkova: “Vedomosti”. We stand accused – Mr Sechin believes that
we dislike him. In reality, we like him and there is something
to commend him for. However, there are certain things that we see
in the Government’s activity and in his activity that raise
questions. For example, we have big problems with the budget. It was
balanced but to that end, decisions were taken to slash investment
programmes, certain investment projects and increase dividends for state-owned
companies.
However, there is
an organisation called Rosneftegaz. Gazprom and Rosneft are major
payers of dividends but not all of their dividends go
to the budget. First they go to Rosneftegaz and then
Rosneftegaz sends a certain portion to the budget. In other
words, these funds end up in Rosneftegaz’s accounts. Rosneftegaz has its
own investment programme but it is fully covered by Rosneftegaz’s
liquidity. It is not clear why it needs these funds.
Why is it that these funds,
which are essentially public funds, do not go to the budget? They
could be used for social programmes. They could be put to a more
effective use. For example, for additional capitalisation
of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, which has shown its efficiency
and which uses this money in the economy. Why are the funds
just sitting there? Maybe they should be seized?
Vladimir Putin: You just
want to seize everything. You represent Vedomosti, a liberal economic
newspaper, and you just want to “seize, grab and prohibit.”
Yes, there is
a Rosneftegaz reserve fund. However, it is absolutely transparent. There
is nothing non-transparent there. It is under the Government’s control.
And we use it to finance certain programmes when the Government
forgets that there are priorities that cannot be ignored.
For example, last
year, as well as this year, science and education projects,
above all science projects, will receive additional financing from Rosneftegaz.
I am talking about the so-called mega-grants. These funds will also
be used to address problems related to small aviation to resume
building planes for regional airlines. These funds will also be used
for projects related to big aviation and the development
of a heavy-duty aircraft engine. We recently built an engine
that had not been manufactured over the past 29 years, since
the Soviet days, but we need a new engine with a greater
thrust – 30–35 tonnes, which will allow us, together with our Chinese
friends, to build a wide-body long-haul airplane.
These are the kinds
of things – things that the Government has no money
for after all the squabbling and fighting but which need backing
all the same – that we will finance with Rosneftegaz funds.
That is it. Thank you very
much. A happy New Year to you! Thank you very much for your
patience. Good luck!
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